So I was tackling another round of mailbag questions last night when I came across a query that asked how we achieved the Park in Boiling Water sequence for SGU’s penultimate episode, Blockade.  In the sequence, Park, sporting a protecting spacesuit, takes refuge in the hydroponic dome’s collection pool as Destiny plunges into the outer surface of a star.  She waits out the wild ride, holding on for dear life as the heat intensifies, the plants burst into flames, and the surrounding water boils away.  I was going to direct the curious reader to a past entry in which I’d revealed how it was done – only to realize such an entry didn’t exist!

Apologies.  Here ya go…

Testing the waters…

And the effect from within the collection pool, looking up at a panicked Park…

Today’s entry is dedicated to all of the long-time lurkers/first-time posters who have taken the time to leave a comment over the past week.

Mailbag:

Jon writes: “Was Park’s submersion in the water in Blockade a practical effect?”

Answer: Thanks for reminding me.  See above.

AD writes: “If you had unlimited time to tell the story of Atlantis, do you think they would have rebelled against earth and become independent? They always make me think of the American colonies dealing with Britain pre-Revolutionary War.”

Answer: I would have liked to see Atlantis exert its independence, not so much through a willful severing of ties with Earth but more of an agreement that would have seen it acting more like, yes, an independent colony.  Having Atlantis more isolated (ie. without the ability to dial Earth or receive resupply runs from Earth ships like the Daedalus) would have certainly helped as well.

Scott Hander writes: “Are the sets for Universe being struck and stored, or struck and destroyed?”

Answer: I would imagine that certain pieces will be auctioned off and everything else, sadly, destroyed.

SupremeLegate writes: ” In the beginning Eli was a slacker and Chloe, for lack of a better term, was a spoiled daddies girl. But by the end they had both changed a lot. Which leads me to wonder, what was the intent for them, where where they meant to end up?”

Answer: Pretty much where they ended up by the end of season 2: fish out of water who had started to develop the skill set and character that made them valuable members of the Destiny crew.

“Now this next question is a shipper question, previously you gave some insight into the Young/TJ/Varro triangle. So now I am asking for some insight into the Eli/Chloe/Scott triangle.”

Answer: As much as she cared for him, I just never saw Chloe developing feelings for Eli (although the idea of downloading Ginn’s consciousness into Chloe’s body which I outlined in this entry – May 12, 2011: Stargate: Universe, Beyond Season 2! What Might Have Been! – would have been pretty close. Rather – besides the the obvious Young/T.J./Varro triangle – I wanted to explore a possible Chloe/Scott/James angle in season one, but no one else seemed quite as enthusiastic.

Guy writes: “Any chance un-filmed scripts can be published as book or books, or is MGM restricting this option?”

Answer: If you’re referring to the movie scripts (there are no unfilmed scripts for any of the shows), that is again up to MGM.  For what it’s worth, I dropped them an email on the subject a couple of weeks ago.

William Francais writes: “My question did anyone ever suggest exploring the history contained in the core? ”

Answer: Nope.  It was in the hands of R&D, undergoing extensive testings – like the goa’uld healing device and the time-jumping puddle jumper from Good to Be King – that made it impossible to figure into future stories until research had been completed.

nm writes: “The one thing that’s always bothered me is re s9 and I always wanted to know if it was an oversight and intentionally. Why wasn’t a single mentioned of where O’Neill went and why in all of season 9?”

Answer: I believe it was an oversight at first and then, mysteriously, intentional.

Moritz writes: “Would be great, if you can give some information about the storyline of the moonbase Carter was talking about on Continuum. What was the plan for?”

Answer: I’m not sure if she was kidding or not, but Atlantis is the moonbase – as we reveal in Stargate: Extinction.

@iom666 writes: “Joe, I got the feeling that you wouldn’t go back to a Stargate show even if you had the choice (I mean from your current situation as you now moved to Toronto)? If so is it because you considered you had enough of Stargate or do not want to do business again with MGM/Syfy… or your consideration is purely on business AKA “why not if there is money to make with Stargate again, i’m in” ?”

Answer: I’m simply being realistic.  As much as I would love to see the franchise come back with a series in the very near future, I don’t think that’s very likely. Similarly, I don’t really see a movie being greenlit either.  If I’m wrong (and nothing would make me happier) then it would more than likely be a movie – in which case Brad and Robert, as the series co-creators, should be the guys to write and produce it.

Anat writes: “1. Ronon’s gun is the same as the Travellers gun (correct me if im wrong) so where did he get it from? Did he trade/steal it from the Traveller’s directly or did he get it from someone who got it from the Travellers?”

Answer: I would imagine he either scavenged it from a dead Traveller or had it given to him by someone.

“2. Also how many technologically advanced races did you guys imagine inhabited the Pegasus Galaxy?”

Answer: The technologically advances races of the Pegasus Galaxy were few and far between.  Unless they had a way of shielding their technology from wraith detection, they would have presumably all been culled.

JDale writes: “…we could have seen a earth ship catch up with destiny (using maxed out hyperdrive?) or an earth expidition with a earth ZPM? come to destiny?”

Answer: No, giving a ship that kind of capability would have totally undermined the enormity of Destiny’s long mission.  The only way Earth could have reached Destiny was through the gate.

flib writes: “Is it for certain that any novel/comic continuation will be strictly non-canon?”

Answer: I suppose it depends on the fan.  Given the fact that it’s unlikely we’ll see any new adventures of SG-1, Atlantis, or Universe, then why not consider the books canon if it allows the characters to live on?

Adam writes: “Anyway, I’m curious, at the beginning of season 7, was it ever considered to keep both Jonas and Daniel around, and have a five-person team?”

Answer: Unfortunately, SG-1’s budget couldn’t support a five person team.

fsmn36 writes: “I admit, I’m a little behind on SGU eps…but why would Destiny have non-aging stasis pods and the later-created ones, like on Atlantis, didn’t?”

Answer: What would be the point of having non-aging stasis pods?  The whole point of being in stasis is that your body enters a hibernative state that significantly slows down the aging process.

Lyle writes: “1) Will your Transporter series still need to be green-lit after a network has seen the pilot? Any idea, if all goes as planned, when the series will air?”

Answer: Nope.  We have a U.S. network on board (as well as a Canadian, German, and French broadcaster).

“2) I know there’s been a lot of people wondering about what would have happened when Destiny reached it’s final destination, but is it possible that Brad/Robert will not reveal anything at all just in case Universe (or another SG show in the future) is revisited? Have they told you whether or not they will?”

Answer: I can’t speak for Brad and Robert.  I’ve extended an invitation for Brad to visit the blog and do one final fan Q&A.

David H writes: “Are downloads (iTunes, Amazon, etc) considered at all when looking at ‘DVD’ sales?”

Answer: They certainly are by the studio, but the network doesn’t have anything to gain by increased online sales.

myhelix writes: “I would love to know your opinion about your perfect SGU team that would go through the gate together, like in SG1 and SGA (choose 4-5 people)?”

Answer: I believe I already answered this question in a previous entry: Greer, Vala, McKay, T.J., and Ronon with Woolsey overseeing the action.

Shiny writes: “…but can we now surmise that the reason so many of the gateworld people we’ve met in SG1 and SGA speak English is because they are the descedents of the Destiny crew? Kinda like Destiny descendents are the prequel to everything that came later?”

Answer: Interesting theory but not one that we considered.

Chad: “Were we ever going to get an official name for the blueberry aliens?”

Answer: Yes.  From now on, let’s refer to them as the Nakai.

Chad also writes: “Were there plans to encounter human decendents in the next galaxy?”

Answer: Yes, like the military force I mentioned here: May 12, 2011: Stargate: Universe, Beyond Season 2! What Might Have Been!

Tom writes: “Did the writers have any idea what the message in the the background radiation was going to be?”

Answer: Yep.

DatDude writes: “Would Eli and scott have had to take rush and youngs places after a while?”

Answer: When we were originally arcing out season 2, we were planning to have Scott take over when Young hit rock bottom.  It would have been interesting to see him run assume command.

Lisa R writes: “For those who are interested in our job news, hubby has two phone interviews tomorrow—one for a job here in town and the other for the job in CT; they have a whole hour scheduled for this one.”

Answer: Good luck!

max writes: “Do the SG fans recognize you by sight?”

Answer: Not usually but I was once recognized in Montreal, in the dead of night, on an almost deserted street corner while looking for a restaurant.

James writes: “Why didn’t Destiny’s Stargate have a security measure in place like the Earth Iris or Atlantis’ Shield?”

Answer: It was an early model.

Duptiang. writes: ” I was left with the impression the Corin Nemec also did not fit into the cast nor some of the upper staff, or am I off the mark?”

Answer: Can’t speak for anyone else but I always found Corin incredibly polite, gracious, and easy to.

dasNdanger writes: “…dated a few lunatics,” Do tell, DO TELL!!”

Answer: Three words – talking teddy bears.

RFVDevil writes: “Where there any plans to follow up on the “Other Rush” who sat in the chair in Twin Destinies?”

Answer: Nope.  It was assumed he perished aboard the twin Destiny.

Kevin writes: “Are you going to go over the entirety of Stargate that you’ve worked on?”

Answer: That’s the plan.  Next up: SG-1’s Season 7!

JoanieC writes: “Have they cast the series yet, or did I miss that post?”

Answer: Official announcement to come!

trybutez writes: “Maybe I missed it, or maybe it was implied, but what was the ship/craft that detached from Destiny at the end of Air?”

Answer: A scout ship/drone placed there by the Nakai (Blueberry aliens).

PJR writes: “1 – “Of course I’d pitch to the UK. In fact, one of the projects presently on the stack is a potential Canadian-UK co-production.”

Any more info? Heading to UK for it at any stage?”

Answer: Nope.  It’s still out there but was a project in development in search of a broadcaster.

“2 – How many Acts (plus Teaser, always?) to an SG episode, or does it depend on which series?”

Answer: Stargate = Teaser + 5 Acts.

“3 – How many for Transporter: The Series? How long will each episode be? How many in a season?”

Answer: Transporter = Teaser + 4 Acts, 12 episode season.
“4 – Being interested in the nut n’ bolts of story creation, what constitutes story spinning, breaking, etc? What are the differences? Only done per episode? Or arcs too? Then, after those, the assigned writer sweats the first draft, submits and awaits the notes?”

Answer: Someone throws out an idea and we proceed to “spin it”, throwing ideas around until we feel we have enough to work with at which point we “break it”, sitting in the room and breaking it down into its story beats, Tease and five acts.  Once we’ve boarded it, the writer heads off and works on an outline.

“5 – Transporter’s stories seem to be coming together very quickly. More so than SG?”

Answer: Stargate’s scripts came together quicker than any show I’ve ever worked on.  Since Transporter: The Series is a new show, we’re looking at more rewrites than the well-established Stargate.

“6 – What, if any, protection did the Ancients design or put in place for their long chain of Stargates through the cosmos, for, surely, they wouldn’t have expected them to sit unmolested or no-one to suss how to block them (like Destiny suffered)? Were there ideas among writers to address this as a reveal of some kind if the SGU had run on? Hell, the drones weren’t birthed by them? Or, were the Ancients never expecting to take too long out in space and, anyway, way back at that time all other life was too primitive so wasn’t an issue – only became an issue for SGU?”

Answer: Presumably the Ancients intended for the gate network to be used by future generations/species, so I don’t think they would have put “safeguards” in place.

“7 – By the grand end, the cosmos would have been cracked as a mystery enabling the FTL and stargates to be obsolete, in effect, because transfer through space-time would be able to happen instantly, with vanishing and re-appearing, no needs for ships (but can take!) and dimensional explorations beginning, on the fringes of which Rush would have encountered those he’d lost to death – and this yearning, this need, this hunt is what was driving him all along to try to crack the mystery. Big. And, spin-off potential! Any chance of comment on how what chimes with what Brad and Rob dreamed?”

Answer: As I said, I leave the details of the big end of series reveal to Brad and Robert.

“8 – Dark Matter – what came first to you – a character, or characters, of scenes with potential to weave, or ‘What if…?’ story question. Given that it is original to you and so differs to the pre-existing worlds you are making (Transporter) and have made (SG) into series, it’d be interesting to know how this works for you.”

Answer: I actually started with the ending of the pilot (first episode), a huge WTF?! moment, then fleshed out the rest of the series from there.  When you see it (actually, the end of issue #2 in comic book form), you’ll understand.

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Lisa R
Lisa R

Thanks for the pictures and the huge mailbag!!! That is always a treat!

The interviews went very well! Next up–the field for the CT job is narrowed from four to two, and hubby will go up for a face-to-face if he is one of the finalists. I will let you all know what happens.

Have a good night!!

tidusspear08 (bjoern herzog)
tidusspear08 (bjoern herzog)

Hi Joe,

you’ve already posted BTS pictures for Blockade: http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2011/03/16/march-16-2011-some-sgu-behind-the-scenes-action-okay-gotta-go/

Good night, Joe!

Lisa R
Lisa R

@Diane: Thank for the good luck wishes!!

DP
DP

Hello, Long-time lurkers/first-time posters who have taken the time to leave a comment over the past week, you seem like a decent bunch. See ya’round.

William Francais
William Francais

I can’t wait to read your comments about Season 7. I wasn’t looking to getting into another show after the cancellation of SGU, Outsourced and previous disappointments like Studio 60 but I am looking forward to your new show. I was wondering non-scifi what has been some of your favorite television.

Connor P

Hey Joe,

Nifty that Atlantis eventually becomes a moonbase. Is the moon far enough from earth’s stargate to have its own, or is it too close, and would interfere? In the latter case, how were people travelling from the earth to the moon? Jumper? Asgard beaming?

I have the Transporter movies in my Netflix queue to watch in preparation for the new series!

Cheers,
Connor P

Kai
Kai

Hallo Mr. Mallozzi,

If my English isn´t perfect plz don´t blame me, im german ^^

OK, so…
There is a Idea in my Head and i realy want to share to someone that maybe can make things happen (well… i know may sounds stupid but, it would be a way. and i think it would be possible to do it) but not by my self, be course im not famous like you =)
ok lets move to the idea:

as far as i know 1 episode of SGU cost 2.000.000 $ so season 3,4 and 5 would cost 120.000.000 $ ok so far so good, now if i or someone else could be able to join 1.000.000 fans together and everyone would donate 120 $ than MGM or Brad Wright or i dont know who where be able to move on with SGU.

I would do it immediately and donation 120 $ if SGU could be continued.

so i could need help in spreading the idea but dont know how, do you have a idea? or someone else?

majorsal
majorsal

Answer: I’m simply being realistic. As much as I would love to see the franchise come back with a series in the very near future, I don’t think that’s very likely. Similarly, I don’t really see a movie being greenlit either. If I’m wrong (and nothing would make me happier) then it would more than likely be a movie – in which case Brad and Robert, as the series co-creators, should be the guys to write and produce it.

a movie, covering all three series, giving ~closure~ to all three series? one, hopefully, *finally* giving closure (aka ‘confirmation’) to sam/jack?

oh please x 100!!

RFVdevil
RFVdevil

Hey Joe,

You do realize SG-1 had a five-person team in Season 10, right? I can’t imagine the Season 7 budget would have prohibited Jonas from sticking around unless RDA’s salary placed that large of a burden on the production budget. It seems like the show could have benifited from an additional member (Jonas, or someone else) to mix things up and add something to the pot as RDA’s shooting schedule decreased to just a few days on set.

Also, at one point in time I remember reading that the producers considered rebranding SG1 to Stargate Command before season 9. Could you talk a little bit about that decision and what might have been different had the change been made? Do you think Stargate Commmand would have gone longer than two seasons (9 & 10) or would it have suffered from the rebranding?

Thanks

DALLAS MARSHALL
DALLAS MARSHALL

Was the idea considered of “adjusting the settings of one of the stasis pods so that it would sustain two people?” That would have solved the one-pod-short problem. I’m thinking that during his time alone, Eli would read the entire owners manual on the pods and discover that there was an option of two-to-a-pod. Just a thought.

Ponytail
Ponytail

“throws…spin it…break it…beats…tease…boarded it…”

You writers are weird people.

@ PBMom – a week or so ago when you told us about getting free tickets to the American Idol final show, I was going to tell you to please storm the stage if James Durbin does not win it all. Well, before I could, he gets voted off!! How wrong is that?!!! He was my favorite all season (maybe all time ever!). Without him, I am no longer interested in the show at all. That vote just freed up my Wednesday nights! But, I hope you have a great time! (Maybe James will be there that night to sing with Steven Tyler. Steven did say he wanted to sing with James.)

DALLAS MARSHALL
DALLAS MARSHALL

BTW, thank you very much for taking such a huge amount of time to answer our gazillion questions. You must live on 3 hours sleep per night. Just wanted you to know that it is appreciated. (and pet those doggies from me, too.)

Don Matthews
Don Matthews

I noticed you were diplomatic about the guy suggesting that maybe all the english speaking races that have been introduced throughout the series were Destiny’s decendants. Except that Destiny only went back in time 2 thousand years and they wouldn’t have reached a point where they could have affected our galaxy for quite some time. Plus, I thought the reason for the prevalance of English was established as the Ancients contact with Earth and colonies forming from earth people who had been taken as slaves by the Goa’uld.

dasNdanger
dasNdanger

Answer: Three words – talking teddy bears.

lol

smile

neutral

unamused

*shifty eyes…hides Teddy Ruxpin bear…shifty eyes*

das

PBMom

@Lisa R> Keeping good thoughts for your husband.

@Ponytail: James IS singing with Steven Tyler/Aerosmith on finale night/results show. It will be the highlight of the evening for me. Wish I could take pictures, but they confiscate your cell phones and cameras on the way in. Since my hotel is right across the street, may need to leave it in the room after getting some pictures before I get in, then storm over there to get it after the event to take more pictures. I hear the line to get your stuff back can be very long. Also scheduled to perform is Stevie Nicks (I’m thinking she sings with Lauren), Lady Gaga (pretty sure she sings with Haley), and Jack Black (sings with Casey). I’m looking out to see who else is performing that night. I can’t believe it is just a week away. This time next Tuesday, I’ll be in Los Angeles. I’m being put up in a very nice hotel, too–Marriott LA Live. My friend and I have decided we will sleep on the plane and not sleep any of the time we are in LA. That is, at least, the plan. I’ll be riding on adrenaline; I’ll crash probably when I get home.

Just FYI for all Lou Diamond Phillips fans out there in the United States: His movie he made last year, Transparency (in Canada), aka Takedown here in the US and in Europe, is now available for purchase on Amazon. Michael Blundell and crew from Stargate worked on this movie, and the actors from Stargate in this film include: Aaron Pearl, Kendall Cross, Michael Kopsa, Vitaly Kravchenko, Emma Lahana, Jonathan Walker, Anna Galvin, Aleks Panuovic, Dan Payne, and Bruce Crawford. I got to see it when it premiered at the Dallas International Film Festival (and got to meet LDP) in April of 2010. Really good movie. They had a very tight budget, but Michael Blundell and team made it look like more than a million bucks.

Bailey
Bailey

Wait, Corin was “easy to.” ???!

Thanks for the continuing mailbags, very informative. Interesting to hear about Moonbase Alpha (oops Atlantis!)

My Name Is Scott
My Name Is Scott

I think fsmn36 was asking why Atlantis’ stasis pods weren’t non-aging when the Destiny that pre-dated it did. If Destiny had non-aging stasis pods, why would they have stasis pods in which you aged millions of years later on Atlantis?

Just relaying the question… I personally didn’t realize there had been a difference in type, myself. Must have missed that.

UnendingAtTheGauntlet
UnendingAtTheGauntlet

Important question, in ‘Enemy at the Gate’ Atlantis landed on Earth. However, we know that each planet only has one stargate. So what kind of problems might occur now that there are two stargates on Earth (the one in the SGC and the one on Atlanis)? Would using both stargates cause some weird time travel again?

James
James

Thanks for answering my question, Joe.

dasNdanger
dasNdanger

Answer: I would have liked to see Atlantis exert its independence, not so much through a willful severing of ties with Earth but more of an agreement that would have seen it acting more like, yes, an independent colony. Having Atlantis more isolated (ie. without the ability to dial Earth or receive resupply runs from Earth ships like the Daedalus) would have certainly helped as well. Ah, what Atlantis could have been! I liked in the very beginning when it was a refuge for the Athosians, and would have liked to see something like that continue. In my ‘perfect’ Stargate world, Atlantis would have remained isolated, a place of refuge for any who escape the Wraith. The immediate space (including planets) around the station would be under their protection, a relatively small area considering the size of the galaxy. Finding and using an old Ancient ship could have given them the necessary firepower in space. Native inhabitants would have been trained military style, creating a small but effective army to protect Atlantis. Atlantis itself would be swarming with all sorts of people from around the galaxy (a little like Babylon 5 or DS9) – it would be a REAL city. Beyond the safety of Lantean ‘space’ would be the kingdom of the Wraith. They would be overlords, with most of the galaxy under their control. They would rarely lose a confrontation. This way they could remain menacing, and mysterious. The lyrics to the Raconteurs song, The Switch and the Spur, come to mind whenever I think of what could have been: Any pour souls who trespass against us, Whether it be beast or man, Will suffer the bite or be stung dead on sight By those who inhabit this land. For theirs is the power and this is their kingdom As sure as the sun does burn. So enter this path, but heed these four words: You shall never return… Wraith space would be inhabited by humans, both those willing to take the risk and those who have no other choice because it’s where they were born. The planets would be rich in natural resources, making them desirable places to live or to exploit. But it would be a bit like the ‘wild west’, filled with lawless men, pirate-y types, and self-appointed dictators. In some ways the humans would be worse than the Wraith. The adventures would include anything from ‘black ops’ missions into Wraith space to save people and bring them to Atlantis, to fighting Wraith, pirate-y types, and other threats from Wraith-controlled space, as well as just general exploration and discovery throughout the Pegasus. Wraith would be an ever-menacing presence, but not the only threat, and not such a black-and-white enemy. Soon the Lanteans would realize that the human populations were so lawless and out of control that Wraith were an important part of keeping the balance. The show would have been a little darker, the Wraith not so cartoonish, and the Lanteans not so infallible. That’s what… Read more »

2cats
2cats

Just echoing what many others have already expressed Joe, thank you so much for taking the time to recap the Stargate seasons and share your unique perspective. I really enjoy reading your insights and the many great questions posted here. That you accomplish this while ramping up a new production is just inspiring. More please?

It is both helpful and a comfort to share our thoughts and feelings for the wonderfully drawn characters and story lines from years of Stargate. I’m not yet ready to let it all go, so reminiscing here does help. Gee, what delicious memories.

Please do persuade Brad to give us a final Q&A?

g’night all,
2cats

Scott Hander
Scott Hander

In Twin Destinies, the Rush from the older ship seemed to be hiding something, especially when Telford confronted him. Did I miss it being explained, or was I misinterpreting it?

boookal
boookal

Joe,

About the difference in reporting the series of events surrounding the cancellation of the great SGU. Could the difference between how you described them (as I have been reading your blog a while and have no reason to doubt you) and how the SyFy exec described them be attributed to the information you received (probably filtered down maybe with their own spin from Brad and Rob) and the spin the SyFy exec put on things? Obviously nobody would want to make themselves look like the bad guy. I mean, it’s a big difference between SyFy canceling SGA and MGM pulling the plug. Also, if you know, what’s that bs about SGU signing on for 2 seasons only if they reached certain ratings? Well duh! If the show did well in season 1, it’ll get a season 2. Isn’t that pretty much how every other show works? Trying to spin it as they really signed for 2 seasons is kinda pushing it, no?

nm
nm

Thanks Joe, appreciate the answer. Also apologies for the awful grammar. smile

PekkaSteele
PekkaSteele

When we found the humans in S2, that opend a lot of doors, like, for series end, if you would have known before, could Desteny maybe be destryed, and the crew could have moved to Novus (and it would not be destroyed)?

Stargate: NG-1? That is a new series called Stargete New galaxy, could that be a good idea for a 4th series if it would sometime be a new one down the line. The people of Novus is trying to find a way to connect to that far world they only have read about called Earth? Looking trou the galaxy for tech that could help them?

And thanks for all years of Stargate! It is sad it has ended, but was 3 great shows!