Hey, you know what they apparently don’t have in Japan?  Long hot peppers!  How do I know?  Well, the other night we were at Fondy’s house and Akemi volunteered to clean the hot green peppers we had set aside for dinner.  Unbeknownst to either Fondy or I, rather than use gloves or simply use a knife for the task, Akemi stripped the seeds out with her fingers.  It wasn’t until we got home that she began to feel the searing effects.  The poor gal was up all night, in tears, enduring the pain of her flaming fingers.  We applied every home remedy that google came up with.  She rinsed her hands with almost the entire contents of our fridge and cupboards – olive oil, vegetable oil, milk, white wine, V8 juice, hand cream, shaving gel, even mayonnaise! – before finally solving the problem by popping a couple of tylenols.  It was 4:00 a.m. by the time she got to sleep.  Needless to say, it’ll be a while before she samples another pepper, much less clean one.

Sad (spicy) rabbit.

Well, my Toronto woes continue.  Last night, Akemi, Rob, Alexander, and I went to Barberian Steakhouse for dinner.  I should have followed Fondy’s advice and gone to Jacob & Co. Steakhouse for the kobe beef.  My rib steak was fine and I liked the rice (too often, the rice at these places is an afterthought) but Akemi found her steamed lobster too chewy (“My jaw hurts!”she complained after we’d left).  Since they were out of ice cream, we decided to try out an ice cream shop Rob recommended (for their coconut and marshmallow flavors).  After being frustrated by Toronto’s torturously long and inconvenient street parking machines, I had given up and joined Rob in parking across the street in a parking lot accessible through a narrow, gated alleyway.  Driving my SUV in was a bit of a challenge.  I had maybe six inches of clearance on either side!  On the way out, Rob suggested I go first and, as I tried to exit, I ended up taking the corner too tight and scraping the side of my Q7:

As I told Rob – In retrospect, it would have been cheaper to just park on the street.

And the Toronto hits just keep on coming.

Oh, almost forgot.  My VISA was apparently compromised (unauthorized purchases at a Sears in Chicago raised the red flags).  This from Fondy when I informed her they had cancelld my car and would be sending me a replacement in 4-6 days: “Yeah, this city is apparently the fraud capital of Canada.”  Then, sunnily: “Welcome to Toronto!”

Hey, check out PopCulture Zoo’s preview of the third to last episode of Stargate: Universe, Carl’s Binder’s best script yet – the poignant, fascinating, enormously satisfying Epilogue: http://popculturezoo.com/2011/04/with-the-end-looming-stargate-universe-delivers-an-epilogue/

In yesterday’s blog entry, I got as far as the mid-season point of SG-1’s fourth season.  Holy crap!  While admittedly a lot fun, I had no idea this trip down memory lane would be so long and winding.

Anyway, the passage of time has mellowed me somewhat, allowing me to view long past events with a more impartial eye.  I refer, of course, to my first experience with the capricious nature of internet fandom: the grand shipper vs. anti-shipper debate of season 4.  In short, while many fans cheered the onscreen romantic developments between Jack and Sam (Jack and Sam shippers), others were quick to decry and criticize them (anti-shippers).  While I still hold these developments were a natural progression of the relationship already established over the course of the show’s first three seasons (and certainly disagree with some of the more pointed criticism that came up at the time) I can see how the storyline could have given certain fans pause.  A few of the arguments made:

1. Having Jack and Sam pursue a relationship would be against military regs and do a disservice to both characters:  Fair enough, although I still hold – as I did back then – that it does happen and sometimes you can’t help who you fall in love with.  Still, despite the mutual attraction, we were well aware of this criticism, especially considering our working relationship with the Air Force, and so were very careful about making sure this wouldn’t be an issue.  In WoW, O’Neill resigns before dipping Carter and planting a kiss on her.  Still, a further argument could be made that, given the situation (their romantic feelings for one another), one or both should have requested a transfer.  Possibly, especially if either felt their feelings for one another could compromise their performance as members of the same SG team.  Did it reflect poorly on them that neither pursued this course of action?  In my opinion, no, but my opinion is one of many. Ultimately, it never did influence their performance in a negative way.  Which brings us to critique #2…

2. Having Jack and Sam pursue a relationship would be a disservice to the characters, especially Sam who, up to that point, had been portrayed as a strong and fiercely independent woman.  To this, I would say that even strong and fiercely independent women fall in love and sometimes enter into questionable relationships.  How questionable would a relationship with Jack be?  That’s open to debate but there’s no denying the fact that the circumstances of their working relationship could complicate things significantly.  Also, by suddenly shifting Carter’s storyline to her love life, wouldn’t we be robbing ourselves of the opportunity to explore other facets of her personal life?  Again, perhaps, but the fact is we rarely delved into the personal lives of our characters and, on the rare occasions we did (ie. The Curse, Crossroads) they were always part of a bigger story.

3. Having Jack and Sam pursue a relationship would upset the team dynamics, placing emphasis on Sam and Jack at the cost of other equally important pairings, Jack and Daniel first and foremost.  Looking back at episodes like The Other Side and Scorched Earth, I think we did a good job of exploring the latter dynamic, depicting the great divide between the military (Jack) and civilian (Daniel) mindset, a seeming chasm that, as demonstrated, could be bridged by friendship.

These were the three major criticisms (although I’m sure there are more) and, as I said, even though I still disagree with some of the conclusions, I can sympathize with many of the concerns, especially considering Amanda herself had some reservations about the arc.  In the end, the Jack/Sam ship was touched upon but not actively pursued in a way that would prove detrimental to the characters (again, I’m sure there are those who feel this point is debatable), seemingly reaching critical mass in season 8’s Threads.  Whether the conclusion to this ship or, frankly, lack thereof was a satisfactory one  – well, that’s another debatable point.  I would say that, all things considered, it left both sides unsatisfied.

The great shipper vs. anti-shipper debate sparked some eleven years ago and spanned several seasons.  Many of its participants have moved on since.  Others still remain publicly critical of the creative decisions made.  Still others have mellowed with time to the point where I now exchange friendly emails with several members on both sides of the issue.  I think that, after many years, we’re all aware of where we stand on the issue and can firmly and politely agree to disagree .

Anyway, back to my memories of the individual episodes that made up SG-1’s fourth season….

POINT OF NO RETURN (411)

This episode was borne out of Paul’s perusal of several online conspiracy sites that maintained the Stargate program did, in fact, exist and that the t.v. show was part of a plausible deniability campaign (something we would use in later episodes).  Lots of great memories from this episode: Teal’c on the motel bed, the great onscreen chemistry between Rick and Willie Garson (who got along famously off-camera), and some bizarre notes we received at the script stage.  In one scene at the military camp, we hear a helicopter fly away.  We received the note: “Can we see the helicopter?”.  Brad responded: “No, we can’t see the helicopter because it doesn’t exist.  All we have is the sound of the helicopter.”.  Another note was a request to convey the sense of some alien quality in Marty at episode’s end, something to let us know how out of this world he truly was.  There was a suggestion that, in the final shot of the episode, Marty could wiggle his ears in a other-worldly manner.  Suffice it to say, it didn’t fly.

TANGENT (412)

Michael Cassutt was the perfect guy to write this episode.  With his heavy science fiction background (having written many short stories and novels in the genre as well as countless non-fiction articles) and hard SF experience, he delivered a first draft that any one of us would have been hard-pressed to match for its authenticity in circumstances and terminology.  For months after “No joy on the burn!” became my go-to phrase whenever I was disappointed with something, be it a scripted scene, a production issue, or my lunch order.

THE CURSE (413)

I was damn proud of this episode for a number of reasons, the chiefest being its ability to mine an aspect of Daniel Jackson’s past that had yet to be fully explored.  My inner comic book geek is in full display here as Green Lantern references abound: Professor Jordan Sarah Gardner, The Stewart Expedition, Steven Raynor – all GL’s past and present.  Anna-Louise Plowman’s terrific performance ensured she’d be coming back for a return visit, while Ben Bass’s performance as Steven Raynor should have done the same except that the follow-up story I had planned for his character never got past the room.  The basic premise of the story involved SG-1 heading off-world and discovering they’d been beaten to an incredible archaeological find by another team headed by Steven Raynor and bankrolled by a wealthy industrialist who had swung a deal to make use of the Russian gate.  This episode also marked my first experience with the networks’ dreaded give-everything-away promos.  In this case, the promo included a shot of Osiris blasting our heroes, thus ruining the fourth act reveal of exactly who Osiris was.  It was a surprise-ruiner of such epic proportions that it remained unrivaled for years – until their “You won’t believe the last five minutes!” promo for Kindred 1 that revealed Carson Beckett.  What’s not believe?  You just showed them!! (P.S. Special mention to the German broadcasters that renamed Forever in a Day “Sha’re ist Tod” (Sha’re Is Dead).

SERPENT’S VENOM (414)

To be honest, I don’t remember much about this episode outside of the Mallozian mines (named after yours truly), the “intercepting the transmission” beat, and the uber-cool pain stick used to torture Teal’c that now resides in my garage.

CHAIN REACTION (415)

The fact that the late Don Davis considered this episode one of his personal favorites makes me exceedingly proud.  It was one of those rare episodes that explored Hammond and offered us a peek of the man behind the uniform.  Don was his usual brilliant self and the palpable love and respect SG-1 held for their commander reflected the similar love and respect Don commanded, not only from his fellow cast members, but the entire crew as well.  Although I got along well with the entire cast, Don was the one I would occasionally go out to dinner with, sharing a love of food with the fine, Southern gent.

2010 (416)

Anytime we can kill off all main characters is an opportunity not to be missed.  And they go out in blazing style in the closing moments of this episode, my favorite Brad Wright script of the show’s fourth season.  This was the first part of what could have been an Aschen trilogy, bookended by 2001, but that third episode – like many intriguing notions – just never came to fruition.

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Tammi K
Tammi K

Joe,
I just wanted to say that I’m really enjoying your insight into the episodes of season 4. Thanks for sharing. And, tell Akemi that I’m sorry to hear about her fingers sad

J514
J514

what would of happened in part 3 of the aschen trilogy if it had ever been made?

PBMom

Poor Akemi. I hope she feels better. Sounds like a similar situation to how I found out I was allergic to menthol. After a car accident, Jeff rubbed Icy Hot onto my back and I started screaming as if I was on fire, and well, my back appeared to be. I remember crying, “Get it off, get it off, and standing in a cold shower for a very long time.”

The thing about your car sucks. Oh Joe (heavy sigh), we need to send some positive vibes your way.

I’ve had my credit card number used for purchases. We never lost our card. The police said they did what is called a magnetic swipe. They swipe the card on a specially made device and totally make up a new one. It was around Thanksgiving and someone charged about $3000 of electronics on my card, hitting 4 different Best Buys. I jumped in because the police was less than enthusiastic, one saying that I needed to file a report with my local police, the local police telling me I needed to file a report with the Houston police because that is where the crime occurred. I talked with the Best Buy managers and got the times of the transactions and wanted to get their surveillance video to match up the faces in all 4 stores, but they wouldn’t let me see it, only the police, but they had to act fast because they didn’t keep the tapes for very long. This is very low on the totem pole. I was LIVID that these people got an HD TV, a Playstation 3, a game, and a few other things I now cannot remember. I felt violated. We had a feeling it might have happened at this one restaurant where Jeff complained because he was served dirty water. It happened a day or two after that. Fortunately that is where it ended (no other things showed up and they didn’t appear to steal my total identity). You just feel violated (and well I wanted justice, too).

My favorites out of this group were Point of No Return and 2010.

Jon
Jon

Is it just me, or are there more typos in this post than any other JM post ever?

Lisa R
Lisa R

Sorry to hear about Akemi. Hope she’s feeling better. My favorites out of this group were: Tangent, Chain Reaction, and 2010. And I completely agree about Don Davis being a gentleman. Hubby and I met him at a convention in 2005, and he was a class act. He was familiar with the town where my father-in-law was born and raised in Missouri and spent a few minutes telling us about some experiences he had had there which we enjoyed getting to hear.

Have a good evening!!

Jason "The Chef" Turner
Jason "The Chef" Turner

I work with red savina habanero for my hot sauces all the time and the stuff even soaks through gloves. The trick to getting it out of the cuticles and such is to treat it initially like a burn. Hold it under cold water for 10-15 minutes and then two bowls of milk and soak ’em for a good half hour occasionally working the milk into the areas that were burning. Tylenol helps, for sure. But it needs to still be neutralized because the tylenol may dull the pain, fingers get forgotten and an itchy eye is much more sensitive than even Tylenol can help. So soon, you have burning eyes. Not fun.

PBMom

Funny thing just happened. We’ve had our Stargate SG-1 Season 4 DVDs on Amazon Marketplace for probably 1-2 months now and they were not selling. We bought the big boxed set with all 10 seasons so didn’t need all the individual ones any longer. Hmmm.. I wonder if all this talk of season 4 connected us with one of your blog regulars/lurker. Thanks for the sale, Joe!

And BTW, the people from school only watched Patrick for 15 minutes and seemed very impressed by his progress (holding in all snides comments). The director of Patrick’s present facility told me she felt it had gone well. I’ll find out soon. They have until June 3 to hold a meeting about it.

Deni
Deni

Poor Akemi, but hey, at least she didn’t rub her eyes! Of the episodes you mentioned today, I loved Tangent, 2010 and Chain Reaction. I miss all of it and wish we had another 10 years! smile

PBMom

I’ll be curious to find out tonight on Epilogue who Eli winds up with. It’s either Camile Wray or Vanessa James. We know Wray has descendants so that makes for a very interesting twist to her sexuality. And with the friendship that was developing between Wray and Eli, it is not outside of the realm of possibilities. But to end up with James is funny because of the kino spying on her taking a shower.

Ugly Pig
Ugly Pig

Thanks a bunch for these posts, Joe. I’m really enjoying these looks back at seasons past. One nitpick, though; is SciFi really to blame for the spoilerfilled promo for The Curse? Considering SG-1 was still on Showtime at the time of season 4? smile

crayonbaby
crayonbaby

Poor Akemi. I can’t even imagine how painful that was. And your poor SUV.

I’d have to say that 2010 is one of my favorites of SG-1. Silly shippers versus anti-shippers. Luckily it’s died down a lot. I remember when the episode for SGA came out, I think it was Trio (the one where McKay, Sam and Keller went down to the surface of some planet and were trapped). I am also bad with episode names unless I’ve seen it ten times. Sam sort of reveals her relationship status. That kind of fanned the flames just a little.

I think you did a good job on this, Joe. You made your case for Jack and Sam and that they could be together.

Ultracurious
Ultracurious

Wow, I am in awe….

These “Ultimate Behind the Scenes” entries are wonderful! This is the BEST gift you could possibly give to dedicated SG Fans and I cannot thank you enough. (Well, short of an invite to Jack and Sam’s wedding, of course.)

I can imagine that these are some pretty time consuming entries and it is absolutely a gift for all of us who supported all the years of Stargate.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

josephmallozzi
josephmallozzi

Hmm. Now that I think of it, I’m not sure if it was a Showtime promo or a promo after the move to SciFi. Will change the reference just to be fair.

Randomness
Randomness

@My VISA was apparently compromised (unauthorized purchases at a Sears in Chicago raised the red flags).

Wow that’s horrible Joe, there’s a lot of scum out there that do that to people. Infact it happened to me before too, someone tried speanding what would of worked out as thosands of dollars with my Visa card details too, which they somehow obtained.

Luckily my bank rang me and asked *Are you at *Insert shop name here* speanding *insert amount here* as a security check, I’m like nope *Insert surprised response from me here* *Insert response from bank saying they’l send me a new card*

Some advice that people give

1. Always stay with your card, never give your card to someone to take away(like at restuarants etc)

2. Only buy from reputable websites.

3. Keep your PC secure safe with *Insert programs here*

But I do all 3 above and it still happened to me =/

PBMom

Everyone: Check out this interview with Jason Momoa about Game of Thrones: http://blastr.com/2011/04/jason-momoa-those-game-of.php

dasNdanger
dasNdanger

@ Sparrowhawk – PSSST!!! Ixnay on the editcray ardcay, okay? wink

@ Joey – A little story. My dad loves hot peppers. One sunny summer day we gathered around the picnic table for lunch with all the workers. It was like one big happy family, with everyone wanting to impress the boss. Dad insisted that everyone try these extremely hot peppers he had sliced for the sandwiches, and certainly no one wanted to turn him down. One by one, the workers gingerly plucked a hot pepper – or two – from the bowl. One fella really liked the hot peppers, so he plucked out a few more. Then he went to the toilet…and didn’t think to wash his hands before handling the hardware. eek We all had quite a laugh over it once the screaming subsided, and the poor fella never quite lived down what became known as The Hot Pecker Incident. wink

das

Kristiana

Thanks so much for doing these posts reflecting on SG-1! I’m enjoying them and remembering how many great episodes there were in season 4 alone, not to mention the following seasons. It’s interesting to hear your perspective on the Jack and Sam shipper/anti-shipper debate too.

Because I watched seasons 1-8 on DVD (catching up because I didn’t discover the series soon enough to watch them live), I luckily didn’t get spoiled by the promo for The Curse. But it is disappointing when a promo gives away could be an amazing reveal during the show itself.

And your mention of 2010 reminds me that in January last year, I had a watch party with a few friends and we watched both 2010 and 2001 (because you can’t break up the set). It seemed like a fitting thing to do, and it was really fun.

fsmn36
fsmn36

Ah, yes. Spoilers in promos. Man, they drive me nuts. And I like spoilers! A network that does (pretty) well? The CW, surprisingly. (Sometimes, under the direction of the actors though, like Mark Sheppard who insisted his name be taken out of the credits to keep the surprise for fans…he knows us too well.) The most recent Syfy-like promo flub, though, came from an unexpected source: CBS’ The Mentalist. Seriously, I thought for sure the promo was a fake out. But nooope. They indeed revealed the villain of the past 2/3 of the season with a “you won’t believe!” disclaimer. Oy.

You know, I’m usually on the shipper side and so I can say I was somewhat unsatisfied by the fact that Sam/Jack was never completely text (the way Mulder/Scully eventually was made), but I think you all handled it well, giving plenty of indications.

Ah, yes. 2010. When written (watched, in my case), it seemed so far away. And yet, looking back, even though the Stargate ‘verse has inherent advantages (i.e. alien technology, travel amongst planets), it’s depressing to think that really, there wasn’t much difference between 2010 and 2000 beyond some fashion changes and a few more wars. Not unlike the way I laugh at the idea that we could develop warp drive by 2063. Those Star Trek folk sure were optimistic!

I’m sorry to hear about the constant bombardments upon your money and things! Toronto is a rougher town than I’d imagine. Hope Akemi feels better soon, too.

Sparrow_hawk

@das: But I really needed that new refrigerator and they had such a nice Kenmore Elite at Sears…

uh….. oh……

I guess I’ll have to return it.

Drat.

Sparrow_hawk

Great behind the scenes stories, Joe. Now I need to go back and watch season 4 of SG1 again!

And those must have been some deadly peppers!

@Akemi: I’m so sorry for your trouble! I hope your fingers are better.

jimbp

Hi Joe, have you ever eaten a Stargate cake http://noms.icanhascheezburger.com/2011/04/23/funny-food-photos-stargate-cake/ ?

PBMom

Just finished watching Epilogue and I am in tears. That is now my favorite episode of SGU and I’m even more upset now that it is ending. No spoilers.

Montrealer
Montrealer

Ahem! Mr M. April 24th was yesterday.

me
me

OMG!!! Tonight’s SG:U episode was excellent. This is my favorite one.

Dappy
Dappy

Season 4 was definitely among my top three favorites. It’s amazing how big a part of my life Stargate SG1 was and how poignant it is to read your musings on it.