A taste of the other side.  With cheese!
A taste of the other side. With cheese!

I know a guy who spent a month living with an indigenous tribe in South America. Over the course of four weeks, he ate what they ate, drank what they drank, did as they did and, generally, lived as they lived. When I asked him the obvious question – Why? – he informed me that it was only through cultural assimilation achieved by the complete surrender of long-held social mores, that one could fully comprehend the experience of “the other”. It struck me as a courageous though altogether foreboding exploit, a course of action I could never imagine taking myself.

Until today, when I took such a step, moving out of my comfort zone in an effort to understand a set of beliefs and practices so daunting, so bizarrely alien to me, that I questioned whether I would survive the experience with my sanity intact. In seeking empathy with our new office assistant, I abandoned the very foundation upon which I, as a human being, have long stood, eschewing ingrained notions of right and wrong to embrace her strange – some may say freakish – outlook. Today, I followed Ashleigh’s lead and ordered a vegetarian sandwich for lunch.

Camembert, avocado, cucumbers, and tomato on baguette. It wasn’t bad. A little weird at first. I kept waiting for that bite of chicken or crispy bacon that never came but, after a while, I got used to it. It was tasty, if not a tad messy, but all in all an exhilarating and positive experience not unlike riding a rollercoaster for the first time or learning your wife or girlfriend went ahead and watched that Susan Sarandon movie without you.

No, I haven’t been converted. Two weeks from now, you won’t catch me wearing tie-dye and open-toed sandals listening to Melissa Etheridge, trumpeting the virtues of tofurkey and getting the shit beaten out of me by rodeo cowboys. Still, it was a fascinating, eye-opening journey.

Next week, I join the Patea Maori Club!


Hey, the 2009 Hugo Award Nominations are out and there are a number of familiar names among the nominees.

Blog favorite and Stargate: Universe Consultant John Scalzi earned three nods: Best Novel for Zoe’s Tale, Best Related Book for Your Hate Mail Will Be Graded: A Decade of Whatever, 1998-2008, and Best Dramatic Presentation, Long Form for METAtropolis.

Nancy Kress, who joined us recently to discuss her book, Dogs, received a nomination in the Best Novella category for “The Erdmann Nexus”.

Ellen Datlow, who will be joining us next month to discuss Poe: 19 New Tales Inspired by Edgar Allan Poe, received a nomination in the category of Best Editor, Short Form.

Our very first book of the month club guest, our buddy Lou Anders received a nomination in the category of Best Editor, Long Form.

John Picacio, who was a guest of this blog last year, received a nod in the Best Professional Artist category.

And author David Anthony Durham who dropped by in 2008 to discuss his novel, Acacia, received a nomination for The John W. Campbell Award for Best New Writer.

Congratulations to all.

53 thoughts on “March 19, 2009: A Taste of the Other Side. With Cheese! And the Hugo Nominations.

  1. Just remember, one serving of soy is equivalent to ingesting 5 birth control pills in terms of estrogen levels. Stay manly, eat meat.

  2. “Next week, I join the Patea Maori Club!”

    You do realize that they’ll make you get a tattoo, don’t you?
    And do it “old school”, on some more sensitive body part…

  3. In my humble opinion (or, as the hip people like to say “IMHO” or “I’m Ho”) ya gotta feed your body what it needs. If your body needs less protein derived from meat and your a stern republican sensibility who wouldn’t know the difference between patchouli smell and mary jane smell then forgo the steak and leap onto the tofu train.

    And, same same, if you’re a “free spirited barefooted guitar under-the-tree” kinda person but you get queasy and dizzy without your serving of cow butt every day then activate your free range sensors and fulfill your nutritional needs.

    You don’t only crave things because advertising tells you to but sometimes you crave things because, hey, your neurons have told you that particular thing you’re craving is helping something in your body.

    I was a vegetarian for about four or five years. Now I’m not. You want to know what’s natural? What’s the best way you should live? Listen to your body. Let the universe take care of itself. Buy “morally right” meat. Drink “morally right” milk. Eat “morally right” eggs. But don’t fug up your body trying to prove something to other people about what’s right and what’s wrong.

    There’s nothing wrong with being a vegetarian, a vegan, a raw food dieter, a fruititarian, or an omnivore. Hells bells, there is more politics to be concerned about in this world then what is “morally correct” to put in our bodies.

    Find out what you need and stick to it. Everything else from there is your decision. The end.

    Sorry ’bout that.

    *stumbles from soap box*


  4. Wow! Vegetarian sandwiches? Always trying new things, eh?
    I always wanted to try being a vegetarian, but mi padre is a butcher and would always say “You’re putting a butcher out of business.” And then he would bring home the most delicious bacon, pork tenderloin, or steak, which would change my mind in an instant!

    I’m pretty psyched that METAtropolis got a Hugo nod; I liked it a lot, and apparently it’s the first audiobook to get nominated!

  5. Aw, there you go, Joe! You survived! Your colon will thank you. And don’t we all want a grateful colon.

    Two weeks from now, you won’t catch me wearing tie-dye and open-toed sandals listening to Melissa Etheridge, trumpeting the virtues of tofurkey and getting the shit beaten out of me by rodeo cowboys.

    You don’t know what you’re missing ….

    @ Melissa’s Cozy Teacup:
    one serving of soy is equivalent to ingesting 5 birth control pills in terms of estrogen levels. Stay manly, eat meat.

    I’m pretty sure all the men in Asia would have some comeback to that.

  6. Jesus, Joe, it’s just a life choice. But to be fair, there is the issue with cheese…dirty little known secret about an added ingredient that makes them hard or something…

    Go Vols!

  7. Way to go Joe! I’m proud of you. Hey if you really get the gusto and want to try the tofu. Start with tofu puffs also called fried tofu balls. They are a delicious melt in your mouth dream. Allot of my friends are vegetarians and I really do enjoy cooking for them.

    Hey why the Melissa crack? O wait you employed Lou Diamond Phillips never mind.

    Do no up dates on the pups how are Lulu and Jelly doing?

  8. We will mourn the passing of your manliness, and honor your memory. And don’t you fear some sort of backlash from your co-writers and producers for venturing down the veggie path, even temporarily? You really need to head down to Fuel’s and see about one of those nose-to-tail pork dinners…
    Congratulations to all the nominees. A very nice reflection on your taste in writers that so many of the names are in fact familiar ones.

  9. Gonzaga in the final? Seriously? Joe! You’re on the west coast! You should know better! 😛 I know my Washington team could beat them and I doubt we’ll make it out of the Sweet Sixteen.

  10. Mr. M.,
    Wow! Very cool about the Hugo Award Nominations! Please send our hardy congratulations to all and especially John Scalzi! W2Go

    One of these days I am going to start reading again, when my eyes are better.

    I wonder why we can’t order books with large (really huge) print for those of us who hate reading glasses! I love the fact that I can increase the size of web page fonts just by hitting the control and + sign.

    Have you decided on a date and participants for the WFPoTD – Alcoholic’s anonymous!

    I hope Lulu is doing and eating better!

  11. After reading todays blog I felt that the following study may help clarify matters.

    Q:Doctor, I’ve heard that cardiovascular exercise can prolong life; is this true? !
    A:Your heart is only good for so many beats, and that’s it…. don’t waste them on exercise. Everything wears out eventually. Speeding up your heart will not make you live longer; that’s like saying you can extend the life of your car by driving it faster. Want to live longer? Take a nap.

    Q:Should I cut down on meat and eat more fruits and vegetables?
    A:You must grasp logistical efficiencies. What does a cow eat? Hay and corn. And what are these? Vegetables. So a steak is nothing more than an efficient mechanism of delivering vegetables to your system. Need grain? Eat chicken. Beef is also a good source of field grass (green leafy vegetable). And a pork chop can give you 100% of your recommended daily allowance of vegetable products.

    Q:Should I reduce my alcohol intake?
    A:No, not at all. Wine is made from fruit. Brandy is distilled wine, that means they take the water out of the fruity bit so you get even more of the goodness that way.Beer is also made out of grain.Bottoms up!

    Q:How can I calculate my body/fat ratio?
    A:Well, if you have a body and you have fat, your ratio is one to one. If you have two bodies, your ratio is two to one, etc.

    Q:What are some of the advantages of participating in a regular exercise program?
    A:Can’t think of a single one, sorry. My philosophy is: No Pain…Good!

    Q:Aren’t fried foods bad for you?
    A:YOU’RE NOT LISTENING!!! …. Foods are fried these days in vegetable oil. In fact, they’re permeated in it. How could getting more vegetables be bad for you?

    Q:Will sit-ups help prevent me from getting a little soft around themiddle?
    A:Definitely not! When you exercise a muscle, it gets bigger. You should only be doing sit-ups if you want a bigger stomach.

    Q:Is chocolate bad for me?

    A:Are you crazy? HELLOCocoa beans! Another vegetable!!! It’s the best! feel-good food around!

    Q:Is swimming good for your figure?
    A: If swimming is good for yourfigure, explain whales to me.

    Q:Is getting in-shape important for my lifestyle?
    A:Hey! ! ‘Round’ is a shape!

    Well, I hope this has cleared up any misconceptions you may have had about
    food and diets.

    For those of you who watch what you eat, here’s the final word on nutrition and health. It’s a relief to know the truth after all those conflicting nutritional studies.

    1. The Japanese eat very little fat
    and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.

    2. The Mexicans eat a lot of fat
    and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.

    3. The Chinese drink very little red wine
    and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.

    4. The Italians drink a lot of red wine
    and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.

    5. The Germans drink a lot of beers and eat lots of sausages and fats and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.


    Eat and drink what you like.
    Speaking English is apparently what kills you.

  12. Good for you for trying something new, Joe. That sandwich does sound very, very tasty, but I can’t help thinking that it would be improved by adding some nice prosciutto. Yeah, I’d make a lousy vegetarian too, but I’d do about as badly trying to subsist solely on meat.

    As for you jointing the Patea Maori Club, I’m with Das, I’d love to see you up there doing the Haka with them! *g*

    Congratulations to the Hugo nominees! That list also includes the Dresden Files graphic novel, “Welcome to the Jungle”, by Jim Butcher with art by Ardian Syaf.

  13. Hi again Mr M!

    Great news on the Hugo nomination front…Speaking of which, did you check out Mr Scalzi’s take on the SyFy name change…..very very funny!!!

    Hats off also to Mr Lou Anders for a very deserved nod!! Well done Lou!

    So, re: vegetarian trends…actually Her Royal Highness only ever eats Veg Pizza… she has a fear of over-processed meats.. Over the past decade I have grown accustomed to eating same and now I shudder when I think of meat-pizzas…This from a red-blooded Irish raw fillet steak eater!!! Weird eh?

    How are the new cast settling into Vancouver life? Have they taken you up on your restaurant recommendations?

    Best to all at The Bridge

    Oh, and by the by, when is the Joel Goldsmith Q and A??

    Many thanks!!



  14. I’ve gone quasai vegetarian. Meaning, sometimes I eat eat, sometimes I don’t. It’s a taste preference, nothing else. We have a LOT of good food over on the dark side.

    And I’m not a convert to the Maori thing….but I did get a tattoo..

    I guess I’m just a dabbler.

  15. Joe your are one brave man. I don’t think I could have gone that far.

    GREEN, YOU ROCK!!!!!!

  16. Question(s) for Dave and Roy:


    In the text along with this picture where you can see just tons of spirals to indicate galaxies, they indicate that what we see from these is like 13 billion year old-light. Do you think that our Universe really does still have so many galaxies in a single snapshot–or that those galaxies might have since been destroyed (can a galaxy be destroyed? How would one cease to exist anymore?)? And with a slight Stargate twist–do you think like all of them or like 3/4 or even 1/2 support some sort of life? 🙂

  17. Question(s) for Dave and Roy:

    If the milky way really does revolve around a black hole, like it’s theorized–do you think that in say a hundred million years that our galaxy would be in danger of getting sucked in? How does it work for a galaxy to surround something like a black hole–but to not move ever closer to eventually disappear inside it?

    One from Joe had me wondering as well…What kind of instruments are used to detect extrasolar planets?

    When the rover was on Mars, I believe at one point they mentioned using the microphones to actually record sound–do you know if anything ever came of that, or if they just dropped the idea entirely?

    And…just for good measure. Who DO you think would win in a fist fight between Ronon and Teal’c? 😉

  18. I’m with Green. My body always lets me know. It will have me craving a salad or a huge steak or when I have been outside in the summer all day sweating I will feel a drive to sit down and eat a bag of salty chips/crisps.

    Grandpa always said: Everything in moderation…

  19. [quote]I know a guy who spent a month living with an indigenous tribe in South America. Over the course of four weeks, he ate what they ate, drank what they drank, did as they did and, generally, lived as they lived. When I asked him the obvious question – Why? – he informed me that it was only through cultural assimilation achieved by the complete surrender of long-held social mores, that one could fully comprehend the experience of “the other”. It struck me as a courageous though altogether foreboding exploit, a course of action I could never imagine taking myself.[/quote]

    I think you got yourself an episode for sgu there, would love to see an episode base on a team member living with aliens for a month eating there food.

  20. (Another) Question for Dave and Roy: Say for some crazy reason that Apophis was actually on a direct collision course with earth–just dead on. Do you think the antics that they used in ‘Armageddon’ or ‘Deep Impact’ would work to divert it away? By blowing it up in the middle and hoping that it splits off and goes on either side of Earth?

    What are your take on Disaster movies such as those?

  21. Hey Joe,

    I haven’t been around for a while, kinda been lazy, but also I’ve started uni so yeah. Anyway thought I’d pop by and see how you’re going, by the way, did you know that the sequel to ‘The Name of the Wind’, ‘The Wise Man’s Fear’ is supposed to be available this April? I can’t wait for it to come out, I enjoyed the first one so much and I really didn’t want to have to wait to find out what happens next but I know it’ll be totally worth it.

    On another note, my sister is a vegetarian, and I hate when mum cooks dinner so she will eat it, lentils and just too many vegetables. I could never give up chicken which is my favourite meat, and I like most seafood, I don’t think I’d be a good vegetarian. But look on the bright side, at least your new assistant isn’t a vegan, I imagine that would be much worse, or kosher. Personally I don’t really get the point of any of it, but that’s just me.


  22. Sometimes I feel like a vegetarian. Sometimes I don’t.

    I learned that what Green so eloquently said— Feed your body what it needs— is so true. When I was pregnant with Allie I tried all those *correct things* the doc said I should: low fat, low carb, healthy, healthy, healthy. And I never kept anything down. 🙄 My morning sickness lasted all day long. After 12 weeks of carryin’ a bun in the oven I’d lost 10 pounds. 😯 As with everything in my life, when all else fails, I went to dear old mom. A former hippy I might add. Mother of 6. All natural childbirth. And a former nurse to boot. This woman knows her prenatal stuff!

    Mom said that our bodies are pretty smart for the most part. I had cravings, yes? Probably not weird aside from their intesnity, yes? Yes! and Yes! Mom said, “Screw that doc! Eat what you are craving!”

    For the next 20 some-odd weeks it was Mac ‘n Cheese (the first meal I was able to keep down) and lots and lots and LOTS of Taco Bell. When I had a craving I found out that I could eat what I was craving and then I was able to handle a sensible salad later on. It balanced out.

    I have learned to listen more to what I want to eat. After Allie was born I couldn’t eat red meat. The thought of it was disgusting. Then Erin came along… she threw me back into the *I love red meat* category. I did what was right for me.

    And I gotta say, I do love me some vegetarian meals every once in a while. 😆 Veggie burgers can be heavenly.

    My results speak for themselves: Two healthy girls! One of whom towers over me and the other is quickly on her way. 😀


  23. Hi Joe,
    I was just wondering, what is the “alien situation” on SGU? When you mentioned that Scott would be using a big gun, that sounded promising, because if you’re hefting a gun around you usually have to be, ya know…shooting at something. But recently, Mr. Carlyle gave an interview which made SGU sound like it was going to be a “technical malfunction” of the week, as opposed to a “forehead of the week”. Would you able to tell us if we’ll be seeing alien races, one of the major draws of sci-fi, (not SyFy though), on the show? Or is every week going to be something going wrong on the Destiny, and the crew struggling to fix it before they run out of air/water/whatever? This isn’t going to be a remake of Battlestar Galactica through the prism of Stargate, is it? I know you probably can’t say much, just thought I’d ask. Thanks!

  24. @green: Well put! I would add, however, that for many families, food is simply a matter of what’s cheapest and available. They don’t have the luxury of looking for organic or “morally right” anything, especially in other parts of the world. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve always been one of the very lucky ones, and although I feel horrible when I think of what animals go through, I have also seen the other side of the fence.

    @Trish: When I had my children (my oldest will be OMG OMG OMG 30 in November), we were actually encouraged by our doctors to give in to our cravings (Breyer’s Peach ice cream for months for me), but also to eat a balanced diet (which included read meat).

    Meanwhile, Flannery the Greyhound is sick and I have spent all morning at the vet. She’s going on 15, so we’re worried. Hopefully this too, shall pass. Won’t know much until Monday, but meanwhile, it’s red meat, chicken and rice for her 🙂 When I got to the vet’s office, everybody was crying (the vets, the techs and even the people in the waiting room). Elway went up to a dog to say hi, and it turns out that the same dog has to be put down this afternoon after getting into a Sago Palm. He’s 10 months old and is total liver failure, so it was very distressing and terribly sad. So, for all Floridians who love their dogs, keep those damn palms out of your yard, they’re deadly.

    Joe, the sandwich looked delish, but anything with avocado is. It would be really outstanding with some sliced cold steak or roast beef in it 🙂

  25. Ok just so you know I’m going to record BSG but I’m going to fast forward thru the show until I get to the SGU trailer. That way I can still refuse to watch BSC. Sadness… I miss Buck Rodgers.

  26. @Robotpo

    SGU needs aliens, because aliens define us. im guessing the second season, will have plenty of aliens once the characters are done with the self-pity stuff.

  27. Hey Joe,

    I just wanted to drop a thanks for all your talking about Fuel on your blog. I was in Vancouver last weekend and managed to convince my traveling companions that the trip just wouldn’t be complete without a stop at this amazing restaurant I’d heard about. Needless to say it was the highlight of everyone’s trip, we may make a return visit just to eat there again.

    I also need to make mention (because it’s funny) that coming in #2 on the list of highlights for the trip was a comment my sister made when I was explaining why my flight was delayed. (I flew in from Vancouver, the rest came in from Regina) I was explaining that my flight was delayed in Toronto and that there was a delay in getting my baggage after landing in Vancouver because there was a group of handicapped people all using those electronic wheelchairs, and they couldn’t fit all the chairs in one baggage hold so they split them between 2 flights leaving around the same time. To which my sister turns to me with a slightly horrified and completely serious expression and says “they put handicapped people in with the baggage?” after explaining that no that was not the case, she then asked “Well how did they get on the plane if they didn’t have their wheelchairs?” For the rest of the weekend, (and I’m sure at some future family event) every time someone did or said something stupid, one of us responded with “they put handicapped people in with the baggage?” I should also mention my sister is a 2nd year university student with a pretty high GPA. Go figure!

    Anyway, thanks again.

  28. Hi Joe
    Got a couple questions if you don’t mind

    1. What is the budget for Air (all three parts)?

    2. What will the budget for a normal one part Universe part be?

    3. Will the Atlantis movie budget be 7 million dollars?

    4. Will you help Paul write Project Twilight?

    Thanks so much,
    Major D. Davis

  29. Kudos for walking to the light side and having a salad sandwich. As a dieter 43 weeks into the program and 43 pounds down, I loved reading your spin on the tale of the experience.

    I’m looking forward to the discussion on Datlow’s Poe collection, I’m partway through it. I enjoyed Windling and Datlow’s fairy tale collections very, very much.

  30. Don’t want to watch BSG tonight (never got into it) but REALLy want to see the SGU promo!!! It’ll be online later, right?

  31. Hey, a picture of food you ate that doesn’t make me feel like i need to avert my eyes. (Of course, I never averted my eyes from the chocolate). Some vegetarian dishes are quite tasty, but I can’t see you embracing it as a lifestyle. Stick with what you like.

  32. @ DAS

    Sweetie! You should have sent him the pic of the guy with the tattooed tongue! [Every Haka has a least one!]

  33. Mmm, I had ER+ breast cancer, not allowed to eat soy. Had colon cancer, not supposed to eat red meat. Have sensitivities to nightshades, no tomato, potato or eggplant. Milk proteins aggravate the arthritis. Can’t have sodium benzoate, that knocks out the diet sodas, plus any foods it occurs in naturally … soft cheeses and yogurt, apples, peaches, berries, avocados, cranberries, papayas and chocolate.

    Go to hell, the lot of you. I’m living on peanut butter until further notice. and chocolate because I love to suffer.

  34. @ Green: I agree with you, your body will tell you what you need. What I find extra-interesting is this: I’ve been vegetarian for 15 years, and in that time, while I’ve craved particular foods, I’ve never craved meat. I could always tell when I was low in protein, because I’d crave eggs and tofu. Other cravings have been for garlic, spinach & mushrooms. Haven’t had a craving for a few years, though, since I started eating in a more balanced fashion.

    I do find it funny how many people express their horror at the difficulty of giving up meat. I loved meat right up to the moment I became a vegetarian – I didn’t stop because I didn’t like the flavour, is what I’m saying. But I never needed to eat it for every meal. Don’t be ruled by your steaks, people! Give it a try. Surely you don’t eat meat with every breakfast, and yet you survive. Try it for a whole day, and you’ll find it’s ridiculously easy! Seriously, I don’t expect everyone to agree with me over the morality of eating meat when we can survive so easily without it, but I have to say I do get quite exasperated when people say they can’t imagine living without meat. I’d call that a serious failure of imagination.

  35. I eat a pretty balanced diet and don’t eat meat every day, but have never had the urge to go completely vegetarian. But I still get cravings. Especially for dark chocolate. I am convinced that my body has an MDR (minimum daily requirement) for chocolate!

    Be brave, Joe! Fly in the face of tradition and eat veggies, tofu and the like if that’s what you want to do. And I’m excited that some of the authors I’ve read recently because of the blog have gotten nominations for Hugos! Now I have to run out and pick up John Scalzi’s “Zoe’s Tale” as I have read the first three.

    @green: Well said! Here, let me hold your soap box while you step down…

    @shiningwit: I’ve seen that before and I love it! Thanks for bringing it to the blog.

    @edgarderby: Go Vols! One of my best friends (Bart the Engineer) is from Tennessee and went to UT! Didn’t you used to be pooroldedgarderby?

  36. I can’t think of a better time to air the SGU promo than during the BSG series finale tonight. Have you ever seen the show and if so, what do you think of it?

  37. Congratulations to all the nominees. I am glad you (Joe)told us about books to try. A good thing.
    – My son is a vegetarian, he seems happy with it, and is healthy, so whatever works.
    – Joe I have to admit when I first started reading you blog today, I thought you were leaving us, maybe going walkabout, Glad that is not the case, I guess you just know how to tell a story and grab someones attention. Never cease to amaze me with this writing ability you have, guess thats why you have the job you have. thanks again fo rkeeping me entertained, Looking forward to SGU, and THE SHORT STORY…
    Have a great day!

  38. Oooh you master of stereotypes you! I like the occasional vego dish and there’s not a tie dye shirt in sight! (not that I don’t like them, just don’t have one hehe).

    Some vego meals are just great! But I’ll pass on the vego steaks and sausies… vile.

    Now I must go. My roast beef beckons…….

  39. @ Annie from Fremantle: Agreed – the Australian fake meats are crap. We’ve discovered, however, this brilliant store in Footscray that sells Asian fake meats – and let me tell you, these guys are sticklers for detail! The texture is very close, as is the flavour of many of them. My meat-eating friends are very fond of the faux-beef (we call it “feef”), the fake half-chicken (“ficken” – comes in a mould to make it look like half a chicken!), and especially, the fake duck (“fu..”, um, yes. You can guess what we call it.) Everyone we’ve given the duck to exclaims, “Hey! It tastes like duck!” which, I would guess, would be the point. Another point in favour of the Asian fakes is the fact that – unlike the Australian ones – a lot of them are also gluten-free.

  40. That was it? I really expected more, even the” piece” said there would be more! Come on Joe, that really sucked!! sheryl

  41. @deniB: LOL! I thought I was freaking when I turned 30. Now I realize my mom was freaking more. 😆 My doctor was a little health crazy. He didn’t want me to eat desserts or any chocolate because it has caffiene. Not that I was eating ridiculous amounts of chocolate. But every once in a while I’d have a massive craving for a hershey’s kiss. Anyway… I feel like some Breyer’s Peach ice cream now. 😀

    I hope your doggie is OK. Give Flannery a hug from me.

    That’s HORRIBLE about a Sago Palm being the demise of a 10 month old puppy! 😯 I’ve always hated those trees. I don’t find them pretty. Thank goodness I don’t have them in my backyard. I’ve been very careful to pick things that my dogs could eat without threat of dying. Thanks for the info. My mom has a sago in her back yard. The dogs aren’t allowed in that area though. Still, she should be aware.

  42. Avocado mushed up with a little salt, pepper and either mayo or ranch dressing (but not too much) is really good when you spread it on warm toasted buttered bread. The bread must be buttered and the Avocado must be fresh and ripe. It is lovely for breakfast.

  43. No idea about hormones, but my immune system goes all whacko from soy. I’m not turning veggie no matter how poor the little cows are!

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