Tim welcomes you to Campagnolo
Tim welcomes you to Campagnolo
Chef Rob
Chef Rob
Chef Alvin
Chef Alvin
The dining room
The dining room
Octopus salad
Octopus salad
Coppa di testa, prosciutto and pickled eggplant
Coppa di testa, prosciutto and pickled eggplant
Penne with zucca, ricotta, white bean, and chili
Penne with zucca, ricotta, white bean, and chili
Tim
Tim
Herb Agnolotti
Herb Agnolotti
Pizza Bianca
Pizza Bianca
Nutella tart
Nutella tart

The long wait is over. Campagnolo, the new Italian eatery from the brains behind Vancouver’s Fuel Restaurant, finally opened its doors the other night – and Fondy and I were there for the grand opening. As it turns out, some familiar faces were there as well: co-owners Tom Doughty, Chef Rob Belcham, and Tim Pittman, as well as Chef de Cuisine Alvin Pillay who used the experience gained from a recent year-long culinary journey to Italy to help create Campagnolo’s menu.

Whereas Fuel, its sister restaurant, is decidedly fine-dining, Campagnolo is casual, its interior a little more relaxed, its prices a little more modest. Its lower Main Street location is also a far removed from West Fourth’s upscale neighborhood, but this will no doubt pay dividends down the line when the area becomes home to the 2010 Olympic Village. Oh, and another difference between the two restaurants – unlike Fuel, Campagnolo doesn’t take reservations.

So we got there early, at a little before 6:00 p.m., and were greeted by Tom and Rob who were kind enough to give us the grand tour. In addition to the front dining room, there’s a bar area for those looking to unwind or catch the big game, and some diversely themed bathrooms (Rob has lovingly nicknamed each one). We then took our seats and perused the menu divvied into several of sections – antipasti, ’the Cure salumi, primi, pizza, secondi, and contorni with a variety of selections for each.

As is customary for us, we over-ordered, opting to sample an assortment of dishes with the intention of bringing any leftovers home for next day’s lunch (or, as it turned out, that night’s midnight snack). I started with the octopus salad with roasted red peppers, cucumber, and lemon. I honestly didn’t expect to love this dish as much as I did. And, I assume, neither did Fondy who tried a forkful – then another – then ended up finishing it off for me. The cucumber and red pepper were a wonderful accompaniment to the tender octopus. I also had the “coppa di testa”. The Italian version of headcheese was served with pickled eggplant and, while very tasty, was a little too firm for my liking – in comparison to the homemade prosciutto I also sampled that pretty much melted in my mouth. Fondy, meanwhile, had the house penne served with zucca, ricotta, white bean, and chili. I cannot emphasize how much she loved this dish. And I’d have to second her enthusiasm. The flavor blend of the various ingredients worked to perfection.

For her main, Fondy had the Alberta beef flank steak with salsa verde. Although not my favorite cut (I‘m a ribeye man), it proved tender and tasty although the dish was ultimately undone by overly-aggressive seasoning. For mains, I had the herb agnolotti and the Bianca pizza. The agnolotti, served with potato, marscapone, and sage, was subtle yet accomplished. The Bianca, what my mother refers to as “white pizza”, was bold with grana padanao, garlic, and olive oil, delivering big-time taste and a crisp, tender crust. The secret, I’m convinced, is in the slender potato slices that graced each slice – neither thick enough to overwhelm nor thin enough to be negligible, but simply ideal. I was hugely impressed with this one which, in my opinion, was the best version of the dish I’ve ever had.

To finish, Fondy enjoyed the olive oil cake which was good but, alas, no match for my nutella tart which I nominate for Best Use of a Chocolate and/or Hazelnut Spread in a Dessert. Unbelievably good.

Fondy and I are already eyeing certain menu items for our return visit. At the top of our list: the borlotti and smoked ham hock soup, the tagliarini with pork ragu, basil, and pecorino, and the pork roast with cotechino, cipolinne, and drippings. And, of course, the nutella tart.

Campagnolo

1020 Main Street

Vancouver, BC

604-484-6018

www.campagnolorestaurant.ca

Check out the video at the end of this entry for a behind-the-scene peek at the B-side of a scene from Infection.

Mailbag:

Belouchi writes: “Welcome back to Canada. I was wondering if you can give me some advice on what restaurants to try while i’m in Vegas.”

Answer: Marty G. highly recommend Restaurant Guy Savoy (which I intend to check out the next time I’m in town). I really liked Alex and Daniel Boulod at the Wynn, Le Cirque and Michael Mina at the Bellagio, and, of course, The Cheesecake Factory in Caesar’s Mall.

Quade1 writes: “Did you have any encounters with non-westerner public toilets??

And what are the chances of getting an SGA theatrical release??? puuuuleaze!!!

What price range does a Fuel dinner run you?”

Answers: No to the non-western toilets and, sadly, no to the SGA theatrical release as well. As for Fuel’s price range, check out their website (fuelrestaurant.ca).

JenR writes: “It’s lovely that you (ALL OF YOU) seem to not understand why we’re frustrated with the show and what’s happened with Rodney. […] We’re upset because Keller has become the focus of the show along with Rodney. It’s all about them while the other characters get shoved to the side. Just because they’re your favorites does NOT mean you can only write for them.”

Answer: You‘re right. I don‘t seem to understand the argument that Keller and Rodney have become to focus of the show. I looked at the episode’s I wrote this season. Broken Ties was a Ronon story with secondary stories for both Teyla and Woolsey. Whispers focused on Sheppard, Beckett, and the new team. Remnants was actually three seemingly separate storylines, one dealing with Sheppard, the other dealing with Woolsey, and the third dealing with McKay and Zelenka. I then looked at Paul’s episodes. Enemy at the Gate is a team episode (you’ll have to see to judge for yourself) while The Seed was more a team episode if anything. The attempt to argue that this was a Keller episode really serves to undermine your argument. She had little to do in the episode but lie there as victim. If it had been Teyla in her place and I had announced this would be a Teyla-centered episode, you can be pretty damn sure the Teyla fans would have been up in arms. I then looked at Alan’s episodes. Infection, Daedalus Variations, and The Outsiders were team episodes. The Queen focused on Teyla. Over to Alex’s lone episode, Inquisition – it can be argued that this was a team episode or, moreover, a “show” episode. The upcoming Vegas, Robert’s lone episode, is through and through a Sheppard episode while Brad’s lone early season episode, The Shrine was, yes, a McKay episode. Looking at Carl’s episodes, you have Ghost in the Machine (another team episode), Tracker (equal parts Ronon, Rodney, and Keller), The Prodigal (again team with some focus on Teyla) and, finally Identity (again, Keller as victim but the focus of the episode is more the guest star here). Finally, let’s look at Martin’s episodes. Search and Rescue was a team episode. The mid-season two-parter had three different storylines – one dealing with McKay and Daniel, another dealing with Sheppard and the Travelers, and the third dealing with Ronon and Keller on board the Daedalus). Sure, you can argue that one part (the McKay/Daniel thread) had more emphasis, but it was hardly the focus of these two episodes. And, finally, Brain Storm – yes, a McKay and Keller episode.

As for the argument that the Keller/McKay relationship has become the main focus of the show, let’s chart its development: The Shrine (final scene, McKay admits his love for Keller), Tracker (final scene, McKay and Ronon admit their mutual interesting Keller), The Lost Tribe (final scene, Keller informs Ronon she is interested in someone else), Brain Storm (McKay and Keller’s first date, the relationship is solidified). Again, hardly the focus of the show’s fifth season.

JenR also writes: “Let me also mention that we’ve only gotten two years with Keller. That’s no where near enough time for us to get used to her, for us to really know her.”

Answer: Fans of Ford would argue otherwise.

Breeze writes: “1) With your trip to Japan, how would you rate it overall?

2) I know my family is thinking about going over there for a holiday. But is there any place you would recommend if my family goes there?

Now for some SGA questions
3) Concerning the last SGA episode “Enemy at the Gate”, will the fans get to see (for the last time) a full credit rollout?

4) In the episode that has recently aired “Infection”, does Telya have the ATA gene? If so, since when? Or did Sheppard activate the Life Sign Detector before it was seen?”

Answers: 1) 8 on 10. If I had been able to cover more ground and spend less, it would have been a 10 on 10. 2) It really depends on where your family’s interests lie. 3) I don’t think so. That’s a network call and every indication is they’ll be showing the truncated credit sequence until series end. 4) No, she doesn’t have the ATA gene. I believe it was demonstrated in Rising that someone with the gene can’t activate the Ancient life sign detector. I would argue that it’s more than likely the result of an alteration made to the device, something more easily accomplished on something like a life signs detector as opposed to, say, a puddle jumper.

DasNDanger writes: “When dealing with an ongoing series – one that may last years – how hard is it to write characters, or even develop plots, when you’re not sure who’s portraying those characters?”

Answer: I believe I did answer this question from you (or possibly someone else). It is admittedly much more difficult to write for a character when you’re not sure who will be playing the role. Still, we have to get scripts written and don’t have the luxury of waiting for casting decisions to be made.

DasNDanger also writes: “ In regards to information revealed in Infection, since Wraith ‘exchange fluids’ with their ship during hibernation, can we safely assume they have a symbiotic relationship with their ship? If so, will more be revealed about this, perhaps in the movie?”

Answer: To a certain extent – yes, that is the implication – although this relationship has more to do with maintaining body function while the wraith are in stasis.

DasNDanger also writes: “ C. Todd seemed to link telepathically with his ship in those final moments of descent…is this a correct assumption?”

Answer: Although it did seem like a telepathic link, it’s clear from previous episodes that the wraith control their ships via manual operation.

DasNdanger also writes: “1. Do Wraith need a human or Wraith host to grow a hive ship?

…2. If so, does this individual then become the ‘brain’, or main computer, of the ship?

…3. If not, is this tech – assuming it’s an extension of Wraith biology – controlled by Wraith telepathy, or something else? (This corresponds to #C above.)

…4. What was meant when Keller said she did not have a designation yet? As a ship or piece of technology, or as something else?”

Answers: 1. That’s what is suggested in The Seed. 2. Yes, the brain in much the same way that a brain operates motor function rather than thought processes. 3. See above. 4. As a ship.

Terry writes: “Joe, how many books did you read while on your vacation?”

Answer: One, Vernor Vinge’s Rainbows End. And I started David Weber’s On Basilisk Station.

DasNdanger also writes: “I clicked on Marty’s pic (just to get a better look at that should-be Wraith behind him), and…well…it kinda took me to a different page, with a smaller BS audience pic under it…and a Sept. entry pic under that. Are you playing with the WP features again, Joe?? And will we ever get the post/comment numbers back?”

Answer: It’s actually WordPress playing with the WordPress features. As for the post-comment numbers – I didn’t change anything, honest.

Caitlyanna writes: “My current inner debate is whether or not to go on this guided tour of part of Canada for my birthday that involves a train or if I should go to Hawai’i.”

Answer: If it was my choice – uh, Hawaii.

Laura Dove writes: “But Sheppard crossed a line when he woke up Todd just to help control the ship, with no intention of ever healing him or his crew.”

Answer: Prior to this episode airing, I mentioned that it would lay where our various players fell in terms of the wraith. Sheppard and Ronon’s outlook has been pretty consistent throughout and although one can argue against this stance on moral grounds, that’s beside the point. Just because they’re the show’s protagonists doesn’t mean they act virtuously at all times. Some, for instance, would argue that Sheppard was admirable for going back and trying to save his buddy in Iraq. Others would argue he was incredibly irresponsible and point out that his misguided actions cost the lives of numerous individuals.

Ava writes: “1) Do you plan an international team for SGU like there was in Atlantis? I’m looking forward this new series! It’s so difficult to find a good old scifi series in Tv these days. Anything scifi related and creative is very welcomed.

2) Could a foreigner be ever accepted to the team of writers in Canada? (dumb question, I know, but I still have to ask)

3) I’ve really enjoyed Brainstorm. Anyone watched Firefly before writing this one??

4) Any chance that we could meet that other Runner, Kiryk, before the series ends?”

Answers: 1) The Destiny will not be crewed by an international team in the same was the Atlantis expedition was. 2) Sure. 3) We all have. 4) Sorry, nope.

Shirt ‘n Tie writes: “thanks for the heads up re: Chef Belcham’s new restaurant! Looking forward to the review. Is Mr Doughty also involved or is this a solo effort?”

Answer: Yep. He co-owns Campagnolo along with Chef Belcham.

Christelle writes: “I have an indiscreet question: how much did your journey cost?”

Answer: A lot!

Pol writes: “Has there ever been an episode that you guys (you and Paul) have written that, after having seen the finished product, didn’t quite do what you’d intended?

To clarify – if you’ve written something that sets a specific tone and feel and upon airing you find that the ep goes in a completely different direction? If so, was that new direction better than what you envisioned? The same? Worse? Made you scratch your head and reach for the chocolate in consolation?”

Answer: Every episode surprises in some way, either good or bad. Many offer up a fairly equal balance of pleasant revelations and disappointments.

 

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ElisaD
ElisaD

Hi Joe,

I don‘t seem to understand the argument that Keller and Rodney have become to focus of the show.

Thank you Joe for that response.

Sparrow_hawk
Sparrow_hawk

Joe Mallozzi said:

no match for my nutella tart which I nominate for Best Use of a Chocolate and/or Hazelnut Spread in a Dessert.

You only say that because you have never had my Nutella croissants.

Thanks for answering das’s questions about the Hiveships.

@Caitlyanna: I have traveled a bit in Canada and I love it. I’ve been to Vancouver, Victoria, a small town on Vancouver Island, Jasper and Banff. Maybe I enjoy it so much because I’m from the U.S. and Canada is a refreshing change. I considered the train from Vancouver to Banff, but it seemed like too much sitting around for my liking. And I’ve never been to Hawaii, so I can’t compare it to Canada. But I think your choice of vacation depends on what you are looking for in a trip. Not that you asked for my opinion, but I thought I’d throw it out there.

pg15

Look at those servings! They’re actually not-bite-sized! Yes!

With all due to respect to Fuel, Campagnolo certainly looks to be my cup of tea. I don’t want to be eating something delectable for one second then realizing that it’s all gone.

Great answer on that Keller question; it always helps to look at “hard” data (well, it is all subjective to a degree, but still). But I suppose those who dislike Keller will say that any amount of screentime is too much.

Jinx

The snow is still freaking my vision out….not in a bad way. I just have to remember what the effect is smile Although I’m already getting tired of the stuff falling outside my window.

Do you think Chef Rob or Alvin would ever part with the Nutella tart recipe? My kids make “nutillas”…they slather a tortilla with Nutella & nuke it for 20 seconds. I had to ship it to AZ when my son went off to college. (The local W-mart carries it now.)

And will we see pictures of the themed bathrooms at Campagnolo?

tamijb
tamijb

Sorry I missed your daily log on your trip. The last time I checked your blog you haven’t left yet or you were about to leave I can’t remember but now I come back and your back from your trip already. Glad to see you are back and that you had a good time.

However, one that didn’t change was the Keller bashing. I noticed that stayed the same. In fact once I saw Brainstorm I said “Here we go again.” refereing to the Keller bashing. As for me I thought Brainstorm was great and I liked that McKay got to shine among his peers ouside of Atlantis. And besides he deserves to have someone that cares about him. and it should be someone that understands what he has been through.

Joe thanks for the break down of the Keller episodes. I totally agree.

Are the questions for Martin Gero still open? Or are they done since Brainstorm was last week?

@das: I know I haven’t been on in a while, but what do you think of Sanctuary? I absolutly love it. It keeps getting better and better.

Tami

JenR
JenR

Well when you break it all down like that…. Joe – it’s not how the episodes break down that’s the issue. It’s what we keep hearing about Keller vs. what we know about the other characters. Every time she opens her mouth we hear more about her, her experiences, her past. I say the focus has turned to Keller not because she’s in a lot of episodes but rather that when she IS in the episode we learn more about her than we’ve ever learned about the other characters over the last 4 years. Now I could (almost) buy the argument that because she’s new you needed to give us a bunch of information about her quickly. I could also accept that you wanted to try to show that she fit in quickly by having the other characters like her right away or at least work well with her right away – which is fine but you kind of jumped to the next level rather abruptly. The problem is I still feel cheated because there are a ton of things I would have liked to know about the other characters. What about Ronon’s family? I guess we can assume they’re all dead but who where they? What about Teyla’s family? Sheppard you did give us something I’ll give you that. Okay so the romantic relationship development was only in a few episodes – but it definitely feels like more at this time. Either way it felt forced. Forced because again we were expected to believe that she was “THE ONE” for Rodney – the one who’d actually make him happy, the one who could give him “unconditional love” (Martin’s words and maybe I’m taking him and perhaps the entire interviews he with at MGM and Gateworld, to literally). Sorry but to me his friendships and love for his friends and family felt more real than his relationship with Keller. (The key problem with Shrine is that when Rodney tells Keller he loves her he’s already losing some of his memories – so there’s an issue of people wondering if it’s really true or the product of his illness. And the fact that Keller was watching it repeatedly came across as disturbing rather than romantic or whatever else was intended. Also Keller acts as though she only started loving Rodney when he was nice while he was sick – there’s no REAL indication she likes Rodney when he’s himself). JenR also writes: “Let me also mention that we’ve only gotten two years with Keller. That’s no where near enough time for us to get used to her, for us to really know her.” Answer: Fans of Ford would argue otherwise. The point I was trying to make (badly but still) was that with Keller she’s the new girl trying to fit in with a bunch of characters we already knew and love. I don’t think I was ready for her to become the love interest to ANY of the main characters.… Read more »

squall78
squall78

Hey Joe,

I saw the numbers for “Remnants” you should be proud of this episode. It was likely one of your best written eps to date, imo. I enjoyed it alot and apparently so did a lot of other folks!

Best,

Squall78

JenR
JenR

@PG13:
If JenR doesn’t dislike what the show show in general is turning into then my point is moot, and that’s fine.

Despite what I’ve said there were still episodes in season five I liked – though if I went through and listed them it would be the ones where Keller wasn’t there at all (or only had a few scenes in). Which admittedly there were several. What I was trying to do was explain why I’ve become frustrated over the last few weeks with the season – granted I probably did it badly but I thought I still had the right to express feelings here.

Also some of Martin’s comments in recent interviews rubbed me the wrong way – maybe I took him too seriously and maybe I misinterpreted some of it but I don’t think he helped any by his rather sarcastic responses to the questions here. Granted he probably had just cause to be upset – I’m sure he’s been yelled at by the fans for everything under the sun. And I’m sure it’s been nasty and rude – which looking back at my first knee jerk reaction was probably rude as well.

I think I just want to know that he doesn’t REALLY think that romance is more important than friendship and family. That Rodney wanting a romantic relationship with Killer doesn’t mean he doesn’t think his other relationships are just as important. But I’m also willing to accept that I’m not going to get an answer to that because it’s possible I DID misinterpret Martin’s comments. And if I did, I’m AM sorry.

Joe – I meant to say on the other comment that I am going to stick with the show for the last few episodes (though I might have to skip Identity – not because of Keller but because that plot line isn’t one of my favorites so It’s probably best to skip it). Because I HAVE been a fan for the last 5 years and I figure I should stick around until the end. I am looking forward to Vegas and the final. I do want to see what you’ve come up with for the last episode.

(Yes I said I wouldn’t be watching Stargate: Universe in a previous comment but that has more to do with what I’ve heard about the show than anything that’s happened with Atlantis).

Thornyrose
Thornyrose

I’m seeing snowflakes on my computer screen…as if it’s not already cold enough here. But thanks for the Christmas feel anyways. And dittos on the mailbag. Just my luck I’ve no questions for you while you’re in the answering mood. Still, enjoying seeing the comments on other questions. Here’s hoping for a good week to all.

Linda Gagne
Linda Gagne

So you now have a new place to dine if you choose. Still not food I would eat, but I do envy those who try new things. I am set in my ways, my taste buds are stubborn like that.

I am not a Keller lover and didn’t watch Brainstorm, but I can say your answer was fair.

dasNdanger
dasNdanger

Thanks, Joe!! *smooches* Answer: “I believe I did answer this question from you (or possibly someone else). It is admittedly much more difficult to write for a character when you’re not sure who will be playing the role. Still, we have to get scripts written and don’t have the luxury of waiting for casting decisions to be made.” Maybe you answered it telepathically! Or…I just missed it. Answer: “To a certain extent – yes, that is the implication – although this relationship has more to do with maintaining body function while the wraith are in stasis.” Okay – something like having an IV and catheter, only with veins and umbilicals and stuff instead of plastic tubes…oh…EEEeeeewwwwWWW! (I love it! ) Answer: “Although it did seem like a telepathic link, it’s clear from previous episodes that the wraith control their ships via manual operation.” Oh, poop. You guys really need to be a tad more creative with the telepathy thing. Still – it begs the question – why is it whenever they’re at the controls (Teyla included) – they seem to zone out, and especially with Teyla, it seemed to drain her? Ya know, Joe – I think you better ask the others about this one – I swear there seems to be some sort of mental link there…at least the way it’s been played by Teyla, and now Todd. Either that, or the actors are just getting high on the glue fumes. Answers: 1. “That’s what is suggested in The Seed.” Okay – Wraith OR human host, or either? Ah, yes – answer one question, it raises 10 more! I need another mailbag!! 2. “Yes, the brain in much the same way that a brain operates motor function rather than thought processes.” Dang…we really needed more about this. I wish there had been a sixth season, just to go a little deeper into this creepy stuff. 3. “See above.” And I still disagree!!! 4. “As a ship.” So…she wouldn’t have grown into an outpost, or something – only a ship? Is this right? Huh, is it??! Only ships are grown this way? What about labs and other facilities?? I gotta KNOW!!!!! Hey, what’s your phone number? Answer: “It’s actually WordPress playing with the WordPress features. As for the post-comment numbers – I didn’t change anything, honest.” Yeah, yeah…right. Answer: “Prior to this episode airing, I mentioned that it would lay where our various players fell in terms of the wraith. Sheppard and Ronon’s outlook has been pretty consistent throughout and although one can argue against this stance on moral grounds, that’s beside the point. Just because they’re the show’s protagonists doesn’t mean they act virtuously at all times. Some, for instance, would argue that Sheppard was admirable for going back and trying to save his buddy in Iraq. Others would argue he was incredibly irresponsible and point out that his misguided actions cost the lives of numerous individuals.” WAITASTINKIN’MINUTE!!!! Okay – so, the character arc I thought I saw in… Read more »

wolfenm

Joe said … As for the argument that the Keller/McKay relationship has become the main focus of the show, let’s chart its development: The Shrine (final scene, McKay admits his love for Keller), Tracker (final scene, McKay and Ronon admit their mutual interesting Keller), The Lost Tribe (final scene, Keller informs Ronon she is interested in someone else), Brain Storm (McKay and Keller’s first date, the relationship is solidified). Again, hardly the focus of the show’s fifth season. What about: Keller asking Rodney out for beer in “Trio” — if nothing had happened after that, I would have written it off as her taking pity on him despite his looking smitten (to me) at that point, but since that’s not *all* that ever happened, I consider that a part of McKeller’s development, albeit it’s early stages. There’s the alt-timeline relationship they had in “Last Man” (not a part of the development of teh current relationship, but strongly suggestive that it would happen and an instance of it in some form). There’s the bit in “The Seed” where Rodney sits with her — he seemed pretty smitten there, too, as well as in the conference room. And John certainly saw enough going on between them in that ep to be reminded of what the alt-Rodney told him. “The Shrine” was more than just the final scene — they flirted in the beginning, her reactions to him thouighout the ep read to me as more than just concern for a patient (she was more convincing in her feelings for him there than at any other point, at least to me), and he gave her a pining look in the cave. And I considered Tracker to be an ep-long battle between Ronon and Rodney to be her “hero”. It was certainly obvious they were both vying for her in the beginning, so I would count pretty much all of Rodney’s scenes, not just the very end, as McKeller-development. Eespecially the beginning, where he was primping himself before going to meet her, practiing how to say that name to impress her, and trying to take her bag for her. It’s hard to write all that off as “just friends”-types of interactions (believe me, i would *love* to, would love it if it were vague so I could pretent they really are *just* friends) when they ultimately ended up where they did. But maybe we have very different defenitions of what constitutes development, how much minutae we would include as being part of it …. The question I’m about to ask is seperate — I would be wondering it even if I *did* like McKeller: If a relationship was going to be taken that far for McKay — TWICE — and Teyla was paired with her guy, why were Daniel & Vala never paired up? They only ended up together in at alt-reality, same as Sam & Jack. So why allow McKeller to go beyond an alt-timeline sitch but not D-V? (I can understand Sam-Jack… Read more »

Daniel

Why couldn’t someone tell me there was now snow on the blog. I thought I was having a stroke.

crazymom1

Fans of Ford would argue otherwise.

Excellent point!

What, no bathroom photos?? You could at least tell us about the themes!

wolfenm

tamijb said …

As for me I thought Brainstorm was great and I liked that McKay got to shine among his peers ouside of Atlantis. And besides he deserves to have someone that cares about him. and it should be someone that understands what he has been through.

Actually, we Anti-McKellers want the same thing for Rodney — we just don’t feel Keller cares enough for *all* of him, only for her vision of who she *wants* him to be. To us, she seems to love an ideal more than anything, and she doesn’t really understand what he’s gone through. (Those aren’t my only reasons for not liking the ship, though, just to be clear.) I guess it comes down to irreconcilable perspectives.

And since Tunney got the credit, it didn’t seem to me like Mckay got much of a chance to shine, save for in front of Tunney and Nye. Well, at least Tunney admitted McKay was smarter than him. I would have liked more for him than just that (but then I guess Keller would have been deprived of anothe chance to reprimand him).

crazymom1

Okay, in less than a year I’ve taken my second police report about evil clones. Maybe I should start writing scifi…

dasNdanger
dasNdanger

@ tamijb – I am LOVING Sanctuary – very exciting show. Of course, I like the emphasis being on trying to save unique things (when possible) instead of destroying them, but the characters have also grown on me very quickly. Of course, Chris as Druitt was my immediate favorite – he just does ‘intense’ so well! But he also manages to make me feel very sympathetic towards Druitt, though not in the same way I feel towards the Wraith. I feel for them because they are condemned because of their nature, something that is out of their control. Druitt, however…well, I just feel bad for him because he lost his sanity. So, when I see glimpses of sane Druitt, it makes me feel very sad for what he’s lost.

And now there’s Bigfoot, and Henry. I liked Henry right from the beginning, but just because he was NOT Ladon Radim…ifyaknowwhatImean. However, over the course of the last few episodes (Nubbins, The Five, Edward) I have grown very fond of him, and I love the developing relationship between him, and Todd …erm… Bigfoot.

Ah, Bigfoot…as with Henry, his development was slow to start, but what great things we saw in those three eps I mentioned…Bigfoot would make the bestest nanny in the whole world! grin

Those are my favorite characters, hands down. But I really like Helen, and the kids aren’t too bad, either. wink I never really cared for Amanda as Sam – maybe it’s just because I really didn’t know the character. But I love her as Helen – there’s just so much more range there, and it makes the show very enjoyable to watch.

My biggest concern is that this is a show with a female lead – historically, they don’t do well, esp. in sci fi. But I have my fingers crossed that enough people are watching the show for it to get picked up…I certainly need something to help me get over losing my beautiful Wraith, only a year after I first discovered them. *sniffle*

das

Erin
Erin

Does anybody else see tiny white dots randomly slowly zig zag down this blog? I thought it was my monitor acting wacky, but I checked other sites, including another wordpress blog, and the other sites don’t seem to have it.

dasNdanger
dasNdanger

Erin – it’s just snow!! WOO! *jumps into wordpress and makes snow angels*

Joe – any way you can get Maximus to chase the snowflakes??! Now that would be awesome! grin

das

Morjana

RE: ‘I don‘t seem to understand the argument that Keller and Rodney have become to focus of the show.’

Perfect response, Joe, thank you so much!

Entertainment Weekly Online has an article about ‘The dumbest TV moves of 2008’ at:

http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2008/12/for-friday-dumb.html

That allows comments from fans for THEIR choices on the dumbest TV moves of 2008. Quite a few fans have written in about the cancellation of SGA — both pro AND con!

Sessy
Sessy

Ohhh octopus is tasty!!!

Hey Joe,

Quick question. Is the similarity between Anne Teldy and Amelia Banks intentional?
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And question 2: ANY chance we’ll see Anne Teldy in the movie? Or should I just get her out of my head?

Sessy
Sessy

BTW if anybody’s wondering what I’m doing up at 5.35 european time… Master thesis. sad Wahhhhhh… Anybody got a time portal lying around? I’m starting to regret ever signing up for this.

Seriously, it’s EVIL. EVIL EVIL EVIL! I believe writing a master thesis must’ve been invented by a man, because only the spawn of evil such as men are (hehe) can come up with such a torturous way to mortify thousands and thousands of students worldwide.

And WHO has last names like “Van Heffen-Oude Vrieling & Bärbel Dorbeck-Jung” anyway?! Do they have any idea what this makes my “short”-references list look like?

Thijs 1997, p. 213
Stabel 1997, p. 79
Teubner 1983, p. 19
Van Heffen-Oude Vrieling & Bärbel Dorbeck-Jung 2003, p. 147.

Do these people collect last names or something?

Ponytail
Ponytail

This is just my opinion, so please don’t jump down my throat and tell me to go watch something else. I’m not writing to offend anyone.

I believe the introduction to the Keller character could have been handled differently, which might have made her more acceptable to the long time Atlantis fans. I realize the writers didn’t know Keller was going to become such a bitter target and now the point is mute because the series is ending anyway. But, for future referrence, (SGU), here I go.

I think about the characters Loren, Zalenka, and Chuck. The writers and producers have said in the past they were surprised by the fans overwhelmingly positive response to these three. I know Zalenka was only a temporary character brought in for an episode or two for Rodney. Zalenka lives on. Loren was never meant to be a main character, but today the fans constantly request his presence in every episode. And everybody loves Chuck the Gate Tech! I’ve heard fans saying, “that episode was great and had everyone in it, except where was Chuck? We want Chuck.”

Why? Why are they so accepted? I think it is because their characters came in, with a particular job to do, and that is what they did. They did their job. Period. They did not try to become anybody’s best friend, or lover. Loren never hit on Teyla or Weir. Zalenka never tried to upstage Rodney. Chuck was, and still is, the ultimate ideal worker, and always says “yes ma’am” when asked to “dial the gate” or anything else. They were not pushy or gravitate to center stage. They just did their job.

Keller came in and was immediately made a major member of the original team. She became the 5th wheel. She should have stayed mostly in the infirmary and performed her job, and let the team (and fans) come to her. Her character should have been more slowly eased into the established team if that is where the writers wanted her to be. But I think she was thrown in too fast. It made her look like she was looking for a husband and chasing after all the boys. If the writers would have taken more time with her character, I think it would not have been long before the fans respected Keller and enjoyed her contribution to the series. Then maybe the fans would have been more accepting and we would be talking about how much we love Loren, Zalenka, Chuck and especially – Keller.

And Joe, sorry, (and sorry squall78), Remnants was not your best written episode to date. Broken Ties was!!!!! Case closed!

Fran
Fran

Sorry Joe but I thought “Brainstorm” was a terrible episode. Why do TV shows feel it necessary to pair everyone up? My favourite SGA Episodes are the Team based ones where the Team gets into trouble and have to figure a way out of the situation. If I want to watch a lame Soap Opera I will tune into The Young and The Restless.

I think it’s good that SGA is ending if it is being written like this. The Stories were great in Seasons 1-4, and about half of Season 5. But the rest of Season 5, sorry Joe I just cannot seem to buy into the whole romance between Keller and Rodney, the Ronon the jealous guy, Teyla nowhere to be seen kicking butt, and Woolsey in charge of Atlantis come on Sam Carter was far better than wall-flower Woolsey.

SGU better be as good as earlier episodes of SGA or else that series will be very short lived. I just hope all of you know what you are all getting yourselves into. And I hope you remember that SGA was a great show before it was sunk.

Fran

gollysunshine
gollysunshine

I would be grateful if you would drop the snow falling through your blog. I’m all for season cheer, but this is making me sea sick while I’m reading your blog, and my only other recourse will be to stop reading the blog. I’d much rather lose the snow. It might have to do with it being barely visible, but it is wreaking havoc with my psyche. It’s even making it hard to write this.