My favorite t.v. villains:

125. Lucretia (Spartacus)

124. Newman (Seinfeld)

123. Catwoman (Batman)

122. Mysterio (Spiderman)

121. Stringer Bell (The Wire)

120. Vern Schillinger (Oz)

119. Omar LIttle (The Wire)

118. The Joker (Batman)

117. Batiatus (Spartacus)

116. Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones)

115. Al Swearengen (Deadwood)

114. Mr. Burns (The Simpsons)

113. Michael (Stargate: Atlantis)

112. Scorpius (Farscape)

111. Chang (Community)

110. Barrows (Downton Abbey)

19. Todd (Stargate: Atlantis)

18. Ba’al (Stargate: SG-1)

17. Joffrey Baratheon (Game of Thrones)

16. Nicholas Rush (Stargate: Universe)

15. Gus Fring (Breaking Bad)

14. J.R. Ewing (Dallas)

13. Vic Mackey (The Shield)

12. Walter White (Breaking Bad)

11. Tony Soprano (The Sopranos)

Agree?  Disagree?  Omissions?  Additions?  Let’s hear ’em!

50 thoughts on “December 2, 2013:

  1. Operations (Eugene Robert Glazer) from La Femme Nikita series that ran from 1997 – 2001. Loved that show.

  2. The witch in “H.R. Pufinstuf”
    The Evil Queen /Regina Mills and Rumplstiltskin /Mr. Gold in “Once Upon a Time”
    Khan Singh, original “Star Trek”

  3. Scorpius was great. Rush was a villain?

    There’s Q. That was bold.

    Nellie Olsen, I can’t call her a favorite because she was so creepy and curly, but she’s classic.

  4. How can you forget The Master (Doctor Who), The Smoking Man (X-Files), and the Cylons (BSG, original & reboot)? I think I would also add Matthew Keller & Curtis Hagen (White Collar), Crowley (Supernatural), & Elias (Person of Interest), imho.

  5. My favorite Catwoman was Eartha Kitt…it was her voice that did it.

    I can’t disagree with the rest (at least for the ones I have seen), although I might have put Todd closer in the order to Rush. Todd and Rush shared a certain duplicity in their morals.

  6. i’ve often heard 1, 2 & 3 described as “antiheroes” of which wiki says;

    the term is also sometimes used more broadly to cover the flawed or part-villanous hero.

    is the line really that thin between antihero & villain?

  7. Well, I’d have an almost entirely different list, but I wouldn’t say it’s omissions on your part. I would agree with #8. Although I’ve never considered Catwoman a villain. A criminal? Sure. But a villain? Eh. More an anti-hero.

    My list would include highlights such as Crowley, Abaddon, and Ruby from Supernatural, Krycek and the “Cigarette-Smoking Man” from The X-Files, Ari from NCIS (recently brought up in the shocking death discussion), Lex Luthor (from Smallville to L&C to the Justice League cartoons), HRG from Heroes (also more of an anti-hero later on), Leoben and 6/Caprica from BSG, Captain Hook from Once Upon A Time, Alpha from Dollhouse…as you can see, mostly genre based. Let me tell you, Supernatural creates a lot of villains to love/hate. Somehow, the villains seem to have better and more logical motivations than the good

  8. Here are a few that came to my mind in no particular order:

    Frank Burns – MASH
    Herb Tarlek – WKRP
    Devon Banks – 30 Rock
    Louie De Palma – Taxi
    Sigfreid – Get Smart
    Wil Wheaton – The Big Bang Theory
    The Big Giant Head – 3rd Rock from the Sun
    Rita – Arrested Development
    Napoleon – Jack of all Trades
    Ted Roark – Chuck
    Basil the Rat – Fawlty Towers

    Hrmph – And none of these shows glorify violence. Whoda Thunk?

  9. Well, when I think of TV villains I think of MGM and Syfy for cancelling SGA.
    Other than that, I agree with Scorpius and Todd. Haven’t watched most of the shows you list. 🙁

  10. The Master and Davros from Doctor Who.
    Baron Silas Greenback from Danger Mouse.
    The Roadrunner from Looney Tunes/Merrie Melodies (Yes, The Roadrunner is a villain. Tormenting that poor coyote.)

  11. Caffeine addiction does not equate to villainy! Those of us who understand this have a bone to pick with you on this one.

  12. The Lucian Alliance are the worst bads ever but worst in the sense I see them at a flea market and dont buy them nor for free. 😆

  13. Pshaw…Todd was a hero, and we all know it! Now Sheppard, on the other hand…



  14. @ Debra From The South – RE: Peter Pepper. You have officially outdone me in every. single. way.

    Well done! 😀


  15. The Governor on The Walking Dead would have to figure prominently on any list of TV villains.

  16. @JeffW How are you doing?

    I don’t think Rush was a villan. Driven yes, bad guy not really at his core. Now Commander Kiva (Rhona Mitra) was a definite villan. I think Robert Carlyle is a better villan with Mr. Gold/Rumplestilken in OUAT.

    I think Tom Neville in Revolution is a favorite villan.

    I agree with most of the ones you have listed above of the shows that I have watched.

    I like Ganymede’s addition of Wo Fat from H5O.

    I would agree with the Cylons if some didn’t have a conversion of heart. So I think the ultimate villan Cylon was John Cavil (Dean Stockwell).

    Malcolm Merlyn on Arrow. Sylar on Heroes. Nina Myers on 24. Darth Sidious on Star Wars (I don’t count Darth Vader because he had a conversion of heart before the end). Those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

  17. I do not think I’ve ever said thank you for your creation of Ba’al, played by the amazingly talented Cliff Simon. He made an awesome show simply amazing. Thanks for bringing him into the Stargate World.

    I also like Tom Neville (Giancarlo Esposito) from Revolution, Matthew Kellogg (Stephen Lobo) in Continuum. Nathan Starke (Ed Quinn) from the first three years of Eureka. John Pope (Colin Cunningham) from Falling Skies. Gaius Baltar (James Callis) Battlestar Galactica.

  18. I second Elias on POI as well as Root, yes to Khan and Nero in Star Trek.
    The Borg Queen is my bro’s fave, he loves how body confident the Borg Queen is despite her detachable torso. And I love Famke Jansen and young Bill Skaarsgard on Hemlock Grove.

    Michael and Todd are my fave villains; I could watch a series just about their Wraithy adventures.

  19. Not sure if this is okay with you Joe. If it is, thanks and if not, just delete the comment. Today is Giving Tuesday (Black Friday, Cyber Monday and then Giving Tuesday). As most of you know, Patrick’s autism school is a 501(c)3 charitable organization (translation–tax write-off). I am always in competition with the Armenta family to try to beat their campaign (never quite do it). Last year was kind of sad in terms of fundraising. The previous year I was able to raise over $1000 for Including Kids. So if you guys feel like you might want to help them, I have a little write up about things Patrick has accomplished just this year. Also have a link to the story our local Fox 26 Houston station did last Christmas as a follow-up to their original story 5 years prior. The news story really gives you a visual of how far he has come since then. Every tiny bit can help. I was thinking that if my 700 FB friends and my 2000+ followers on Twitter all gave $5, I could raise $13,000 for the school. But I know that is not reality. I’d just be happy if I could meet the goal of $1000. Here is the link:

  20. I would agree somewhat that Rush could be seen as a villain, his past actions aside, I think he still has it in him to screw the crew of the Destiny over if it furthered his own gains. If it ever came down to it, I don’t think he has the moral fortitude to be 100 percent good. He also isn’t completely trusted either(And for good reason), thus why Eli is a very important character lol

  21. So many “good” villain nominations. Some villains are just so darn fun to watch, like Baltar or Number Six from Battlestar Gallactica. Then there are other villains that are so sad and lonely, like The Wicket Witch on Once Upon a Time.

    My hubby and son have been rebuilding my desktop computer. The boys have discovered my computer had an browser hijacker on it. Check your web browsers to see if you guys have a hijacker too. Darn sleazy way for a company to make money! It’s becoming a common problem too.

    My virus scanner didn’t catch it. Hubby thinks I gave it permission to install itself because it was cloaked as something else. That could be, some of the programs are made to look like a clone of regular websites. Anyway, thought I’d pass this on, so you guys could check your own devices.

  22. Totally off topic, but I just had to warn you: I had a dream about you, Joe. No, not that kind of dream. This was a nightmare, in fact. I dreamed you had gotten an absolutely ridiculous haircut. I won’t frighten you with the details. Trust me, it was appalling. So please, the next time you go to the barber, take all necessary precautions!

  23. Ivon, the evil Russian (KGB?) from Magnum, p.i., who fire-bombed Mac in an attempt to kill Magnum.

    Dr. Romano — ER.

    Root — Person of Interest

    Definitely agree with Ba’al. That ep where he tortures O’Neill is one of the most wrenching episodes to watch.

  24. The Blacklist just got renewed Joe. No surprises there, great show, pulling fantastic numbers. It’s adding over 6 million live viewers, + over 2.1 18-49 ratings points in the Live + 7, when you add ontop of its live audience the show is getting well over 16 million viewers an episode. I do think that James Spader is the show though, well most of it. Without him I can’t see the appeal.

    Its adding more in additional DVR viewers, than the average NBC show gets live lol(Besides The Voice).

    1. @Joe Clarification: What is the cut-off for “early pickup?” for Lawren’s game? Would Blacklist pickup be considered “early?” Just so I know how to score it.

  25. Interesting list, and I agree with most of them (that I am aware of, anyway). I never really saw Rush as a villain, though. His character was always far more complex than that. I always figured real villains KNOW they’re villains. The are evil, they know it, and they own it. Rush seemed to really have what he thought of as the greater good in mind when he made decisions. Ba’al on the other hand was a classic (and awesome) villain. Wonderfully played by Cliff Simon, the character was evil – he knew it, we knew it, and we loved him for it.

    I’ll throw in a vote as anti-hero for Witchey-poo from H.R. Pufnstuf. Poor girl never got a break.

  26. @PBMom:

    You have good timing…we visited the orthopedic surgeon today and got the surgery follow-up.

    Unfortunately, the prognosis was not as good as I had hoped. Beyond the removal of the cyst, there was more cartilage damage than we first thought, and I also have arthritis. Because of all the cartilage cleanup (i.e. scraping and cutting), my recovery and physical therapy time will be extended and I will have to remain on the crutches for 2 to 3 weeks.

    In terms of improvement, we’ll have to wait and see.

    You can read the full report (with pictures) here:

    Other than all that, I’m in pretty good spirits. Right now I’m just focusing on resting up the knee (as the doctor ordered), and ordering the Christmas presents for the family; I’m a serious cyber-shopper this year! 😉

  27. @Debra From The South

    Incase you didn’t see my comment aimed at you, just a heads up that I replied, apologies for it being so late though. Sorry about the spoiler thing.

  28. @JeffW – I hate to hear that about the cartilage removal. Hopefully there’s still some cushion left where it’s supposed to be. The bone underneath can lose blood supply and develop new issues if it takes too much of a regular beating.

  29. @ Kathode – I’ve had at least half a dozen dreams about Joe and, thankfully, not those kind of dreams either. Mine have all involved eating food of some kind, usually in a restaurant. And in each one Joey has always been very gracious and kind. So, even if my conscious self thinks he’s a malevolent overlord, my subconscious self obviously considers him to be nothing more than a big, squishy teddy bear. 🙂


  30. @JeffW: Feel better soon! Also, cyber-shopping is the only way to go, in my opinion. I hardly ever visit stores during the holiday rush.

  31. @DP:

    I hate to hear that about the cartilage removal.

    The surgeon was very clear that he only removed the hanging/torn cartilage that was (hopefully) the main cause of the knee pain. The “holes” in my cartilage were “smoothed” by cleaning up the edges, and the cyst (which was in the groove under my kneecap) was removed. I don’t know the medical names for the knee tissues, so I’m only repeating the layman’s terms that the surgeon used to explain this.

    Unfortunately, as of now there is no man-made replacement for cartilage, so after I heal from this, it will be whatever it is. But for now I have a recovery plan in place, and I’m content with my progress for the moment (I’m an engineer, so plans and schedules make me happy! 😉 )

  32. @gforce:

    Cyber-shopping is my only way to go at the moment, but it does come with certain risks. My daughter Jackie end up picking up her present from the door-step when FedEx dropped it off. The online retailer shipped it in the original item’s packaging, so I’m pretty sure she figured out what she is getting. Mr. Gimpy on crutches wasn’t fast enough to intercept here. 😉

  33. I agree with you on all the ones I know, like Michael, Scorpius, JR. I like Todd. I think of him as a friend. All of Batman’s villains are annoying. As usual my feeble mind cannot think of any others. You have amazing recall Joe.

  34. I think hubby’s favorite tv villain right now is Sheldon on Big Bang Theory . He does a very good – and very annoying – impersonation of him. 😛


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