So, last night was the Stargate: Universe wrap party. The writing department kicked things off with dinner at Blue Water.
Consulting Producer Martin Gero flew in from New York where he is working on the second season of HBO's Bored To Death. He's looking well. And beardlier.Executive Producer Carl Binder was not a fan of the rice. Turns out it was couscous.
We lost my writing partner Paul and his wife somewhere between main course and dessert (he was feeling under the weather) , then headed up the street to Goldfish, the site of the bash.
Director of Photography Jim Menard takes advantage of the favorable lighting.
Special Features Producer and recent Hogwart's graduate Ivon Bartok weaves is magic. Actor Peter Kelamis (SGU's Adam Brody) takes a night off from the control interface room to unwind.Actor Patrick Glimore (SGU's Dale Volker) invites you to sit down and join him for a drink.SGU Art Department Draftsman Kate Heslup and Art Director Chis Beach. Point and smile.Prop Master "Evil" Kenny Gibbs shows off his evil new do.Executive Producer Carl Binder seconds prior to his spotaneous combustion.Production Coordinator (and wrap party organizer) Tanja Balic.Karen, Carl, and Ming-Na.Actor Jamil Walker Smith (SGU's Sgt. Ronald Greer) and Consulting Producer Marty G.Actress Julia Benson (SGU's Second Lieutenant Vanessa James) and husband Peter Benson.Actor Josh Blacker (SGU's Sgt. Spencer) comes in for the K.O.Sassy Stargate Production Coordinator Kerry McDowallActresses Ming-Na (SGU's Camile Wray) and Alaina Huffman (SGU's Lieuetnant Tamara "T.J." Johanasen).Super-suave Script Coordinator Lawren Bancroft-Wilson. What's not to love?Exec. Producer's Assistant Ashleigh and her guy James.
Around 11:30 p.m., Martin Gero staggered by clutching a bloodied towel to his hand. He wasn’t exactly sure what had happened but did confirm it involved him dropping a glass. He was headed to the hospital. It was way past my bedtime anyway so I offered to drive him.
I run into VFX Supervisor Mark Savela while waiting for the valet to bring my car around. Marty G., delirious from blood loss.
I dropped him off a little before midnight. Showcasing the flipside of the Canadian healthcare system, he was seen and stitched up within the hour, giving him plenty of time to head back to the party.
Tonight, Marty G. and I are having dinner at Fuel (just like old times) after which I’ll be driving him to the airport. Then, it’s early to bed for me. I’m exhausted and need to be on my A game tomorrow when we start spinning SGU’s second season.
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Sounds like good times. 😀
Loved Light. I’m really enjoying the idea of the ‘mind’ of the Destiny. It’s as if it started flying towards the star, everyone aboard panicked, and it was all ‘dudes, chill. This is what I do’. Luff.
It appears most attendees enjoyed themselves, or at least knew how to look like they did for your camera Joe.
Were there good vibes at the wrap party? Did Brad or Rob make a speech? Could you summarize for us?
As to the Destiny, will we soon know if there is an AI on board?
Thasc’s comment got me thinking there may well be one. And perhaps Rush has found a way to communicate with it, eh?
Hope Paul M and Marty are feeling better. And I hope your Mom is treated soon if it is diverticulitis. Feel better soon Mrs. M!
All good vibes coming your way for a successful and productive Season 2 spin session with the guys. Go crazy, think outside the proverbial box… okay, okay, I won’t pester. Just go write good stuff.
I like the photos, although I am a fair bit disappointed at the noticeable lack of you breakdancing. Though, I suppose we can’t win them all…
My question for the day is: any news on the Atlantis movie? I really hope the ‘word on the street’ about it being scrapped and made novel fodder is just a load of unfounded hogwash. I would love to see an Atlantis movie.
Have fun with spinning season 2. I’m confident there will be a second season. The episodes are getting better and better. “Light” got mostly A and B on the Syfy forums. And those guys there are extremely sceptical regarding SGU.
I don’t know why, but Marty G. looks like a thin Seth Rogan (from the first hour or so of “Zach and Miri Make a Porno”) with that beard.
Also, in some of the pics here and during the last cast interview (with some group of reporters, from Europe I think) I noticed that some of the actors (David Blue, Louis Ferrara, and even Peter Kelamis and Patrick Gilmore above) seem to have let their hair grow out. I’m not sure why this interests me (no, I’m not a hair dresser) but is this something that was done to show that no one on Destiny has a pair of scissors or electric razor for cutting hair or just something the actors did naturally to change their hairstyles?
Good to see Mr. G. again, though I’m not sure about the whole facial hair thing. How many stitches? Hope your partner feels better soon. So, if you start spinning season two, when exactly does your share of the hiatus start? When would season two begin filming once the renewal is confirmed? While I’m not yet won over as an unabashed fan, the show has enough potential I’d like to see it have a chance to grow more. And yes, I know there is a lot in this season I’ve yet to see. Anyways, thanks for sharing and enjoy the “old times” at your favorite eatery.
Aw, it looks like people are enjoying themselves, thanks for sharing the photos. I hope that Paul is feeling better and Ashleigh also. Gotta be careful with that glass it can be slivery and cut easily, if you try to pick up the broken stuff, and Marty needs his hands to work or eat or,well you know.
That Carl, he is really not enjoying himself is he… and you really captured some nice blue eyes on Josh, thanks. Good looking bunch of friends you have there.
Hope you get some rest, those nights are short sometimes, coz maybe the dogs will require your attention since they didn’t get invited to the party.
Wow second season, seems like only yesterday you were writing on the first season. Congrats..
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Haha I was gonna come here and point out Marty G’s story as “the flip side” of Canada’s health care system…but I guess you saw it first-hand! Apparently, if you’re bleeding to death, they take reallllly good care of you!
Thanks so much for the pictures!!! I love how Ming-Na needs no introduction (it’s true!). I feel like Light really helped me get to know the other characters a lot more too, now. For example, I recognized Peter Kelamis, Julia Benson, Patrick Gilmore, and Josh Blacker before I even read their names, just from seeing them on the show (and, in all but the first case, on Twitter!). I absolutely adore that this show truly features an ensemble cast, all of whom we get to meet slowly as the show goes on. The storytelling is really superb!
#2, any program capable of making decisions by itself is technically an artificial intelligence; after that, it’s all a matter of degree. The Destiny has definitely displayed decision-making abilities in the aired episodes, from finding the crew an appropriate planet to get the lime from in Air, to realising it was low on power and heading for an appropriate star, aerobraking manoeuvre already plotted, in Darkness.
It’s demonstrating an interesting level of forethought and intelligent planning. I understand that a later episode is set to deal with Rush’s various experiments with the computer, so we’ll see what happens there. 🙂
Marty G. — lookin’ good with the beard. Glad to read no knives were involved in blood-loss incident.
Ivon B. — I know that one: “accio wand” with a twist — the wand comes with a drink refill, fortunately or not so much. Rockin’ this suit, too; French cuffs are a great touch.
Patrick G. — Despite caption, looks a bit to me like you’re asking Joe to pony up for a betting loss. (j/k)
Carl B. — good to see smile when posing with the ladies. I understand you could have used the “accio wand” spell during pickpocket attempt by a Hungarian dragon.
Lawren, Ashleigh, and James — Nice looks all around, hoping a good time was had by all.
Joe — Couldn’t find pic of you. Will look again when new contacts come in.
Thanks very much for posting all the great snaps. I hope you sleep well. Good luck with second-season story spinning. Another round of thanks to all cast and crew. GO SGU!
Yay! Second season!!! I’ve been traveling for tge weekend. Going back tomorow. Man is Jamil ripped!!(sgu light). Even me, a heterosexual male, would like to see more of buff Greer shirtless!!! What workout does he do. Sign me up!!!!
Loved the idea of solar power in this form. I wonder what Rush was reading…
Next time you see Carl, hold up a mirror and see what he does. If I’m right, he’ll practice his next face for you.
How long did it take for the folks to name the next planet ‘Hoth’?
Wonderful show-n-tell from the wrap party. Thank you. It is nice seeing so many from the show. A little sad that the group is heading out in different directions for the hiatus. Always kind of nice when you talk about being at the office and everyone dropping in. hmmmmm
But, we do have many episodes ahead of us. Each has been great. When do you find out if the show is picked up for Season 2? See that was a question…so next mail bag I will hope to see it there.
reedme please. hola s0y elias de argentina y tuve el placer de ver la nueva serie sgu y no pude dejar de preguntarme si el equipo del destiny tendran algun enemigo fijo como los goauld o los espectros como paso en sus otras series .
ademas note que no se ve el agujero de gusano , y ningun planeta tiene un dhd para marcar sin la consola que traen de la nave ,ademas la serie no tiene tema de presentacion .
perdon no quise sonar muy quejon .la serie me encanta y le veo potencial
I like how Universe is giving such a large group of characters their chance to shine. The distinction between major and minor characters is not especially big. It’s great to get to know them all episode by episode, even when what we learn about them isn’t always of the good.
1.) Why the hell are all of Carl’s facial expressions *always* so awesome? Seriously? I need to take acting lessons from the guy, I really do…
2.) Hope you all enjoyed the wrap party. Have fun spinning tomorrow. As has been said, think outside the box! You’re doing a great job so far this season. I can’t wait to see what comes up far, far ahead.
3.) Beating a dead horse. Give us more information on the telefilms. I don’t care if MGM hasn’t told you anything, break into their headquarters and find out! Please.
Thanks for answering my question about the chevron address the other day. So far I am enjoying SGU and eagerly awaiting the next episode to feature RDA!! which would be earth…only 2 more weeks!
ps. i feel bad for eli and found someones comment saying lt. scott is kirking it up hilarious.
Please keep us updated on your Mom, Mr. M. I know I am concerned.
I loved ‘Light.’ I loved every bit of it (except Chloe who needs to be killed ASAP). I watched it 3 times. Does that count as 3 people watching once? Do I need to buy more TVs? The show is so great on my 50″ plasma and is just like going to the theater, especially since I can’t go to the theater anymore.
Reading all the posts about feminism, etc. please don’t start writing women whining about their equal rights. I am so embarrassed about it as a woman, and I don’t believe it’s the predominant feeling of your audience male or female.
Sounds like a wild – or disappointing – time. Guests that can’t make it through to dessert, others rushed to the hospital, and one or two spotaneous combustions. Personally, I think your chocolate parties sound like more fun.
Big day for me – services, friends visiting from Idaho, catching up over lunch, a hike with Mr. Das in the sand dunes, neighbor drama, and a dinner party that included a nice mix of Italian, Latino/Hispanic, and soul food, topped off with half of us playing Spades, and the rest playing some crazy palor game in which my very own Mr. Das blurted out “Man Muffins!” at a most inappropriate time.
But the ‘highlight’ of the day was stopping by the local Wawa (I’d rather not explain, so here: http://www.wawa.com/WawaWeb/Default.aspx ) to grab something desserty for the party. I waited in the car, and this lady walked past me…cursing up a storm and staggering all over the place. I was tempted to call the cops, but didn’t see if she came from a car, or walked from a nearby development. She came back out about the same time we were leaving – and sure enough, she got into a car. Again I didn’t call the cops because I thought that maybe she had Tourette’s. Really. I mean, she just seemed to be cursing for the sake of cursing. There were no Mallozziesque strategically placed f-bombs, or anything, just profanity upon profanity. Seemed she was f’ing pissed at the sidewalk, and whatever she had in her plastic Wawa bag, and – I think – her shoes. Had to be Tourette’s. So, she gets in her car and heads towards the south exit, while we headed towards the north, and I told Mr. Das to let her go first, just in case…
Well, she pulled out of the south exit, headed north, and as she passed us she swerved onto the shoulder and ran up over the curb. We followed (because it was the direction we were going), and now I called the cops. She was too far ahead to read her plate, but she was all over the road. In the middle, on the shoulder…driving like a crazy person. She got slowed up by traffic at an intersection, and I gave the cops her plate number.
Now – the reason I did this was because the woman was an absolute danger, and I really hoped that the cops would catch her in action. I didn’t want to get ‘involved’ beyond reporting a dangerous driver. Yeah. No such luck.
After she went through the intersection, she started driving north in the southbound lane, with cars coming towards her (though far enough off that they avoided a head on collision, thank god). The dispatcher is still talking to me, asking me what the woman is doing. I tell her that the woman turned off onto a side street. Okay, I guess at this point they deputized us or something, because now they ask us to follow her, and find out where she’s going. She pulled into a driveway…they ask us to find the house number, and wait in the area for the officers to arrive, all the while asking me questions. “Did you see her get out of the car?” “Did you see her go into the house?” I felt like I was on a stake-out, or something. Finally our relief the cops show up, we give them the info, and they tell us we can go. But they did take our name and number, and now I’m worried that we’ll get sucked into something I REALLY don’t want to be sucked into. I just wanted a dangerous driver off the road before someone got killed. This is a small town…’rat’ on someone, and next thing you know, there’s a horse head in your bed.
Marty G – if you are reading this, thumbs up on the suit! It’s really sharp! (Hope you didn’t bleed all over it…) And for everyone’s sake, never, EVER dorkout again in plaid. My eyes thank you in advance.
Carl B – Cor, love a duck…you scrubbed up! 😉
Have a good evening, Joe…or morning…or whenever you get around to this. Hope Mamma Mallozzi is feeling better!
@Das. no good deed goes unpunished. But if she’d run into a family member or a friend, or even a stranger’s child, you’d find it harder to live with yourself than you will putting up with the odd equine cranial decorations in your yard. Ya done good.
I enjoyed Light very much (as I have every episode thus far). I was wondering though if it is explained exactly how the Destiny used the star to power her systems. Did she scoop up stellar matter or did she have really efficient solar panels? If she did scoop up stellar matter, how did it get past the shields? Just being curious.
I thought the acting was just great on this one. Especially the lottery drawing/shuttle departure and how everyone on Destiny was facing death in their own way. How the characters faced what they thought was the end really gave us insight into who they are.
As always, looking forward to more, and I hope the start of the season 2 story spinning goes well and is not in vain. 🙂
It took a while before it sunk in…….did you just confirm Season 2????
Of course I’m sure MGM & SyFy have known for a while that they’d do Season 2, they just hadn’t told you.
Coolies….on with the spinnin’
Thx 4 the pix..everyone looks gorgeous. The Ivon pic gives me an idea…not telling tho’, that would spoil the surprise. But there are a couple of pix missing. Firstly, where are you? I’m sure you looked awesome but we need some proof you didn’t roll up in t-shirt & jeans. Also did you happen to snap a pic of BamBam? Haven’t seen him in a suit.
Please tell Martin the beard looks fantastic, really suits him. Glad he’s OK. At least he got stitches. I sliced my finger on some broken ceramics and all the hospital gave me was a butterfly bandage. Of course I lean towards McKay on those issues.
Thanks to everyone for their hard work this season.
What?! You didn’t post graphic images of Marty G’s injuries? How do you expect to maintain your blog followers?
Just watched Light, once again a good episode. Though, I think its the weakest of the season so far. As soon as the ship was revealed to be on a direct course for the sun, I was like “Oh, that ship has to have solar panels or something. The ship did that on purpose”. Are you telling me no one on that ship thought that may be a possibility? Well I guess Rush may have. And that was the most interesting part of the episode. Who is this Guy? Did He know? He looked as surprised and happy as the rest of them. Maybe he just wants to be hated. We will probably never know. While I appreciated the pace of Darkness I kinda wished Light would have been faster.
Greer hitting that loud mouth Sgt.-Awesome!
Greer hit Telford- More Awesome! (Please tell me that is shown in a flashback)
Eli and Scott are still sunburnt- I love the consistency
I love airmen Becker (the cook)- Just look at his face when Wray boards the shuttle crying
I am impressed with Young’s strength of character, He is someone that is easy to respect
The music was fantastic!
Looking forward to seeing the next episode. Especially because its not a two or three parter.
Reading all the posts about feminism, etc. please don’t start writing women whining about their equal rights. I am so embarrassed about it as a woman, and I don’t believe it’s the predominant feeling of your audience male or female.
I have yet to see a single person request that female characters “whine about their equal rights” so I would have to agree that it is “the predominant feeling of your audience male or female.”
Now, some of the audience – male and female – have noticed that, up to this point, the women on Stargate Universe have been portrayed in a way that is more passive than strong in their point of view and stated that opinion. Is that what you are referring to as “whining”?
Like you, I am a woman, but unlike you, I don’t find it “embarrassing” to state a viewpoint that differs from that of other people.
i liked Light way more than darkness. i honestly didnt expect the whole recharge thing although it came to mind back then before SGU aired. but never into the star, i thought just a driveby would do.
Coucou Joseph!!!
Me voila!! ça va ? Moi oui j’ai passer une trés bon week end à Paris!
j’ai visité le Louvre mais surtout j’ai découvert pleins de nouvelles saveurs gustatives et j’ai fait comme vous j’ai pris ma nourriture en photo…ahhh c’est si bon et agréable à voir!
Waou déja ! Vous avez vite tournez la saison 1 je suis impatientes de voir le final de cette saison.
Quick review of Light by li’l ol’ me. 🙂 I really liked it. It was an emotional episode for me. I was tearing up for the first half in sympathy for the fear and emotion everyone was going through, especially Wray. I reacted as strongly to this episode as I did to The Shrine and almost as much as a I did to Unending. Thanks for the card-playing and praying scenes.
I thought Scott & Chloe’s scene was tasteful and rather romantic sexy. If I was in that kind of situation and had bonded with Scott (and was Chloe’s age), yeah, I would’ve slept with him. (Nothing wrong with Eli – he’s a super cutie and I like snuggly teddy bears. Definitely doable.) I was sad for Eli, but I’m glad he didn’t go all creepy violent and throw stuff in his room or make an inappropriate pass at Chloe. Snuggly teddy bear. That’s cool. 🙂
OMGed, if I could never hear the term “Kirking” used in relation to an SG character, I would be a very happy woman. I’ll have to deal with being a mostly very happy woman cuz people think if a character sleeps with, say, three people in five years, they are total sluts. (Should I include a link to dictionary.com?) Going obscure – not sure what lead characters sleeping with beautiful willing partners has to do with churches anyway. ;P
Greer. Amazing. Took down Spencer for long time in one hit. Saluted Young. His Kino Confession. Wanted to go out of this life like he came in. His incredibly sexy body (more please).
Spencer is a wild card. He’s on Rx meds, so it’ll be interesting how he deals with running out. I thought he was going to come in at the end and either beat up or shoot Greer. Wild card.
Young continues to be fantastic. Not sure he was right in letting the shuttle people be by lottery, but it fits with my sense of fairness.
Rush was cool when he thanked Eli for showing him the outside of Destiny. Not so cool at end.
Again, Wray was the emotional centerpiece for me. She was right to bring up the “you pick them” to Young. I think, of course, that she wanted to be in the chosen. Can’t blame her as EVERYONE WAS GOING TO DIE, but I think she also wanted the people who would best help the survivors to be included. Her “Please” to Young was so heart-breaking, as well as her good-bye to Sharon. (I’m tearing up just thinking about it.)
Speaking of the ending, what an ending! You guys fooled us with the crew sitting around the table, laughing at facing death and surviving, giving us a very lovely SG moment, and Young makes the point of reaching out to Rush and complimenting him. Then the weirdness starts.
Would Rush actually sacrifice the supplies loaded on the shuttle just to get rid of 15 people? As I’m seeing it right now, he’s trying to empty the ship of everyone except him (and maybe a few others). Or at least he was trying to convey that feeling. Weird.
Looks like a nice party. What about David and Elyse, did they not show? What about Robert Carlyle? Speaking of Robert, I saw “The Tournament” yesterday, congrats to Robert for that!
@dasNdanger – You had me there for a sec. Thought you were up in Canada, what with the Wawa reference. Clicked the link and you kinda confused me a bit more, company logo has a Canada Goose. You see the town of Wawa is kinda known for the Canada Goose. See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wawa_ON_3.jpg
It’s seen better days, the community’s having a bit of trouble.
Hi Joe, figured I’d try to answer these questions in Spanish for you, let me know if I’m overstepping. Basically, this person was asking if we were going to see an enemy (as in Goauld, although I have no idea what the “espectros” are, maybe the Ori?), was curious as well about not seeing a wormhole or a DHD and wanted to know why there is no musical theme to the show. I just told him we’d all have to wait and see, that the show has just begun, that sort of thing. I know you answered the query as to why no theme to the show (somewhere), but I told Elias I have no idea why because, well, I don’t. Gosh, I’m SUCH a help.
@Elias: Hola Elias, aunque no estoy segura, creo que por aqui no hay muchos que hablen nuestra lengua, asi que te escribo lo poco que se. Muchos han preguntado lo mismo que tu, pero creo que en respuesta a tus preguntas, tendremos que esperar a ver que pasa porque hasta ahora, nadie sabe mas que tu. En lo que al tema de presentacion (y perdona que no tengo tildes aqui) se refiere, creo que simple y sencillamente decidieron no ponerle uno, no se porque. En mi opinion, creo que es mejor esperar a ver que pasa y no saber de antemano. Acuerdate que la series acaba de empezar, pero Stargate nunca ha dejado de sorprendernos y entretenernos. Que estes bien!
Oh I was wandering is there any chance that there will be any sort of regenerative technologies lurking in the shadows? Sarcophagus types of technologies? And i want to know about the dark asgard business!!!!!!!!!!!! Which episodes?
@Das: Lauren (daughter) and I were coming back from Tampa last week and had to call the Highway Patrol while on I-75. Lauren was driving, doing about 75 mph in the middle lane, just keeping up with the flow of traffic. I’ll preface by saying that I hate that stretch of highway (lots of deaths), starting about 30 miles south of Gainesville. It was dark, traffic was insane, and she got boxed in by 4 trucks. Apparently, the truck driver behind us (huge trucks, by the way) didn’t think she was driving fast enough and leaned on his horn while literally riding our bumper. There was really nowhere for her to go, so I just told her to keep driving and to try to relax. I immediately called the cops, thinking they would probably not do anything. We gave them a description of the truck and figured that was the end of that. He finally passed us on the left lane and did the same thing to other drivers, but by then we had his license plate number. He almost caused an accident ahead of us, and some poor guy wound up on the side of the highway because of this guy. A while later, the police called me back, asked me where we were in relation to the truck (at least a half a mile behind him by then because he was obviously in a huge rush to get where he was going), asked us to turn on our hazzard lights because there was a cop looking for him, and sure enough, the cop flew by us and went after him. They asked for our address as well, but nothing came of it, so I wouldn’t worry too much. You did a good thing!
@ Elminster – The town where the dairy started is named for the Ojibwe word for ‘goose’ – thus the goose in there logo. I suspect the same holds true for the town in Ontario.
Wawas are good little convenience stores, mainly because they are corporate owned, not franchised, which means you usually don’t get the dirty, rundown conditions some ‘quickie marts’ experience. No lottery also means quick checkout lines. They are always remodeling and updating, keeping the interiors clean and the products well-stocked. And they employ a lot of people in the area, whereas many franchised markets are run by individual families, offering few – if any – job opportunities in the community.
And thanks, everyone, for reassuring me that we did the right thing. Hopefully things will work out okay.
I was catching up on the blog after being back home (Wisconsin) for a family funeral and found this:
October 22, 2009: Julia Benson! Jennifer Spence! Birthday Swag! The Weird Food Purchase of the Day!
Terry writes: “Do the bacon-chocolate chip cookies really have bacon in them? Even when I was eating bacon, I couldn’t imagine that combo.”
Answer: Yep, real bacon. It’s a very nice savory, sweet, and smoky taste medley.
Cool! So glad you A) got them; and B) seemed to enjoy them.
I have to say I am with Terry on my initial opinion of the cookies tasted them cautiously. I’d have to say…not bad. Not my first choice, but not bad.
But…having seen your post about bacon knew they were just for you.
So, all the best on your birthday (somewhat belated) and we’re really enjoying SGU.
@ Rose
“I have yet to see a single person request that female characters “whine about their equal rights” so I would have to agree that it is “the predominant feeling of your audience male or female.”
That sentence makes no sense, even when you are trying to relate it to my words. My point was/is if Mr. M is to use all the posts as a symbol of women, they would be portrayed this way on the screen in a large group huddling in a corner, in a loud voice repeating “I don’t care if I’m 2 seconds from dying, I want to die ahead of you, man!” I have read so many negative, long-winded speeches on how SGU needs stronger women and these speeches are only from a FEW women. I have read the other posts on Gateworld (oh how short and not whiny).
There are at least 2 military women. Being in the military takes strength. In ‘Air 1’ one of the women through the gate had white hair, so hopefully we will see her in the future. There is Camile Wray who confronts Young head-on, and many others that we have not seen yet. Chloe was an assistant to a Senator. There was a woman scientist that walked through the gate on the sand planet.
“Now, some of the audience – male and female – have noticed that, up to this point, the women on Stargate Universe have been portrayed in a way that is more passive than strong in their point of view and stated that opinion. Is that what you are referring to as “whining”?
Yes that is it! *puts finger on nose as in charades* I understand it is a viewpoint, and you are welcome to it, as I have a right to mine. Or don’t I? According to you, I don’t since you feel the need to jump on my comment. Try letting one go for once that doesn’t agree with yours. Can you?
“Like you, I am a woman, but unlike you, I don’t find it “embarrassing” to state a viewpoint that differs from that of other people.”
I don’t find it embarrassing to state an alternate viewpoint. That is what I am doing. And here you mock me (incorrectly, I might add.) It is the sheer repetitiveness of your rants … omg… and I feel bad for women if this is how we are represented by a one-note women jury. SGU is a SHOW and ENTERTAINMENT. But I knew when posting my comment that I would only get negative stuff back from you and maybe Mary or Anne Teldy and maybe J. Because that is your ‘thing.’ Do you comment on any of my other opinions? No.
Yes, I worked for 30 years as a professional watching all the female contingent go by the wayside because of marriage and babies. Wah. I did not and have no right to blame them; that was their choice. It left me the only one left to deal with the glass ceiling. Another Wah. I just don’t think it serves your (OUR if I may *snickers, as if*) purpose by writing about it all the time. It ends up desensitizing people to it, and antagonizing along the way. I am not the ‘enemy,’ I just think one can ‘catch more flies with honey.’ Women have come a very long way and there is still a long way to go. Is SGU completely misrepresenting woment? No. And I do think Chloe can be killed off at any minute.
BTW My name is jlgrand, not jigrand. How can I find your rants about me if you misspell it? Thanks! 🙂 Sorry about the LONG comment. I believe commenting here is a privilege. We can ‘take it outside’ if you want and continue the fisticuffs in private if you want my email, cuz that is where this stuff should go.
I was riding with hubby in the semi, and we were going through a crawling detour in a town onto an interstate. A woman came up beside us in the right turn only lane, then tried to cut in front of us. The problem was, she never got up to the front of the truck. We couldn’t move over or stop in the intersection, so hubby kept driving slowly forward, figuring she’d just drop back. Nope. She kept going, moving closer and closer to the side of the truck! Flipping us off too, which was weird, where did she think the big rig was going to go? She looked up in time to avoid the concrete k-rail she was about to drive into… but did she veer to the right? Nope, she turned left, directly under the trailer! Luckily, hubby has fast reflexes and stopped the truck. That little car was untouched, but stopped between his rear tandem tires and the drop-down turn signal. She could have died right under our wheels! She flew past us once we all got on the intersection and we called her in, but I have no idea if anything came of it. She did make the load shift, and hubby had to spend extra hours taking the cheese curds in giant containers to a salvage company, then washing out the trailer.
Wisconsin imports cheese curds from Idaho. That’s like cheating!
Mr. M, just one question please? The crew of SGU are on a gruel die. Do they start losing weight? Some of the crew would start to look emaciated on that diet for long.
@Deni – I just read your post. “Espectros” are Wraith in spanish. I know this because I watch all of the Atlantis episodes on DVD with the subtitles, and this is the word they always use when the people on the show are talking about the Wraith.
It’s interesting, because when I looked it up to see if the word had any special meaning (as in why not just use the word Wraith when speaking/using spanish) and its origin (at least when I looked) took me from english to french (spectre)/Latin. It’s basically something to fear or dread, a phantom/ghost or spectacle. This is probably more than you want to know. Shutting up now…
Hey, I’m in Worcester until thursday. Sitting in a Premier Inn (clean and anonymous) 180 miles away from my housework YAY!!!!!
Saw some horrific examples of driving coming up. Funny how many people don’t realise that there are no FAST lanes on a motorway merely two overtaking lanes.
I wish we had the opportunity to contact police whilst driving but unless you’re reporting a racially motivated or homophobic crime they don’t want to know!
@jlgrand – I think I spelled this correctly. I just read your post:
“But I knew when posting my comment that I would only get negative stuff back from you and maybe Mary or Anne Teldy and maybe J. ”
I personally didn’t have anything to say, that is, until you DRAGGED my name into this. I have NOTHING to do with your quibble with someone else’s comments. And, by the way, being “negative” is ABSOLUTELY NOT MY THING. You seem to think that if everyone does not give a glowing review of everything they see that negativity is their thing. “IF” this is what you think, then fine by me. You are entitled to your opinions. But again, please keep me out of your disputes with other people.
@Tammy Dixon: The “big deal” here is that Gainesville is a college town and many kids die on that road. After living in Miami for 20+ years, I know exactly what you’re talking about – the crazies are everywhere. For any inexperienced driver, it can be daunting, at best. I can also tell you that every time one of my kids gets on that stretch of highway, even a nice Jewish girl will say a Hail Mary and pray to all the saints to preserve them! When I see something so blatant as what happened last week, hell yes, I’ll call the cops! On a lighter note, Lauren was saying (while laughing her ass off) that if it was up to me, those “bastard morons” (yep, that was my big insult) would be beheaded on the highway by the police. That’ll teach ’em to honk at us 🙂
There are plenty of women in SGU. I’m just yanking Joe’s chain. *grin*
Throughout the franchise’s history, TPTB has tended to cast female roles with young, thin actresses, but has used males of all shapes and sizes. I’d just like to see more women of middle age who don’t work out daily.
I loved your entire review of Light. Re: gender politics in particular, I’d like to respond to the following:
“OMGed, if I could never hear the term “Kirking” used in relation to an SG character, I would be a very happy woman. I’ll have to deal with being a mostly very happy woman cuz people think if a character sleeps with, say, three people in five years, they are total sluts. (Should I include a link to dictionary.com?) Going obscure – not sure what lead characters sleeping with beautiful willing partners has to do with churches anyway. ;P”
Yes, once again we confront the double standard as it applies to sexual behavior. That’s something I was incredibly dismayed to see approx. seven years ago from an otherwise progressive-minded 17-yr-old on a Harry Potter fansite I used to frequent. Her equivalent of “Kirking” was the all too often seen phrase, “the town bicycle – everyone gets a ride.” Other site-users were quick to point out the existence of horndogs, gigolos, and man-whores. They’re all over the place — face-to-face world or internet, they’re easily seen by people of all types who keep their eyes open and are willing to call ’em as they see ’em. — With that in mind, I’m the last person on the list of “right to criticize” vis-à-vis horndogs, and would also like to point out that I am *in no way* referring to any SGU-connected internet contacts.
It boggles my mind that the majority seem to be more focused on the fact that Ms. Armstrong slept with Lt. Scott, than they are on the fact that Chloe, in no uncertain terms, made it clear to Matt that being a Senator’s daughter with no particular survival skills — that she would not be a good candidate for unknown-world survival, and requested Scott not to even raise the issue of her being Young’s second choice, even though Scott stated that as his preference. As we saw, he didn’t try to use his influence with Young (would’ve gotten “ranked out” three rungs or so even if he had) — and in both cases, viewers had the opportunity to see two fairly young adults showing the entire crew what personal integrity and morality (where it matters the most) is all about.
Yes, they slept together. My guess is that Ms. Armstrong, as an attractive young woman who could have had any number of suitors, has a strong enough sense of responsibility to have had at least a small supply of contraceptives (likely the b.c. pill) among her personal effects, if her purse survived the hurried evacuation to the Destiny. More importantly, condoms, b.c. pills, and spermicidal devices would very likely be high-priority on the list of military supplies for a mixed-gender group.
Makes it very ironic that the Scottish term for church is “kirk,” doesn’t it?
Bottom line: Chloe Armstrong is very bright, a strong advocate (the Icarus Project; cf. Syfy’s character profiles), caring, and responsible and altruistic where the rubber meets the road (no pun intended). Yes, she and Matthew Scott both need to mature; still, she has a lot of potential for providing sound administrative (and possibly “medic-in-training”) type skills, somewhere down the line — say, under Camile Wray’s, TJ Johanssen’s, and Col. Young’s more-than-competent eyes. In a borrowed workout outfit, she could learn more about basic hand-to-hand combat, as well as weapons-handling, from the awesome MSgt. Greer, 2nd Lt. James, or 1st Lt. Scott, or from anyone else on board who has such skills. She and Eli could be classmates and homework-partners in that regard. I’m just putting well-earned trust in Brad Wright and Robert Cooper, plus the entire producer/writer team, to develop the show in a way that maintains as much fan interest as possible, so SGU will have as many seasons as needed to tell its story completely.
I am *so* not getting this “Kill Chloe” grass-roots movement. To repeat myself and many other commenters: It’s a character-focused show. How about if the viewers do SGU’s uber-talented showrunners a major courtesy in being as patient as they’ve been in letting the characters’ strengths unfold over time, instead of just harping on their weaknesses?? Most of the comments I’ve read heretofore on Joe’s blog come from bright, unusually open-minded people — time to step up to the plate and be prepared for any/all pitches, folks — or risk losing the best sci-fi TV show currently in production.
Takin’ it to the streets re. sharing my SGU enthusiasm with family, friends, neighbors, even the occasional complete stranger. One does what one can.
Explain to me why in “Darkness” during the eli/chole shower scene why was the room with the shower open, if its a shower should it not have a door?
Also with all its technology it (the ship) does not have a shower per crew-quarters?
I like the show I want it to success but apart from episode 3 the rest at times feel forced, too much information too soon adds to the slowness of the various episodes.
@Jlgrand: among numerous things, you said, “But I knew when posting my comment that I would only get negative stuff back from you and maybe Mary or Anne Teldy and maybe J. Because that is your ‘thing.’ Do you comment on any of my other opinions? No.”
Maybe Rose and I don’t comment on your other opinions, but we sure both comment on your opinions about our opinions on sexism. That is something we’re allowed to do.
We also comment on OTHER opinions on OTHER topics. Is that ok with you?
To comment on your opinion on the subject of women in Stargate, yes, I would agree that military women would have to be strong, almost by definition. However, if their part in the story line is merely to support the male characters (TJ) or whine and have sex with a guy she’s known a handful of days (Chloe, although she’s not military) or have sex with a guy in a storage room and then stand around with a gun, she’s not a strong woman or part of the story. She’s wallpaper.
Re Wray’s confrontation of Young: she ended it by begging. This isn’t strength, IMO. Now, the scene with her that rang true for me is when she was crying in the shuttle: no matter what happened to the people when they got to the planet, assuming they survived, she knew that she had lost any hope for ever returning to her life and her family. I don’t think that was weak, btw, but her scene with Young did not show strength to me.
So this is the overall objection with women in the show: they are stereotypes, cookie cutters and wallpaper thus far. We are five hours into the first season of 20 hours. This is a really bad sign. This is called sexism; that you disagree is fine. You have that right. But I am becoming quite amused that there are those who can’t stand our opinions so badly that they criticize us for stating them, rather than countering them with some sort of, well, hmm, evidence from the show. Those who disagree, fine; I think they’re wrong but they can say what they think as much as I can say what I think.
I’m also somewhat amused that you have a problem with our disagreement with your statement and the fact that we don’t “let it go.” I figure when I post something here, anyone else here can ignore it, can agree with it, or can disagree with it. It’s out in the ether. The same thing applies to your messages.
Oh, yes, I’m not entirely sure what you meant by your “embarrassed as a woman” thing, but feel free to be embarrassed for yourself. I’m not ashamed of MY opinions or my statement of same.
Finally, yeah, I’m pretty long-winded. I’m an attorney. It comes with the territory. There are days when I swear to myself I’m going to write a shorter post. Sometimes I manage. If you don’t like to see my messages, please don’t read them.
Dites je me posais une question, vous n’avez pas de compte skype, msn ou autre ? car c’est dommage on parle toujours par message interposer (Q/A) . Je voudrais bien avoir un comversation écrite avec vous un jour. De toute façon si vous aurez ce type de compte vous n’iriez pas le chanter sur tout les toit, même à moi.
Si vous voulez me faire parvenir des info Top secret vous avez mon email ;-)===> bon ok je sort lol
ah oui..roh j’ai encore oublier quelque chose. Vendredi mon pére ma acheter le derniére Astérix & Obélix, il s’appel “l’anniversaire d’Astérix et Obélix – Le livre d’or” Il est génial !!!! Je trouve l’histoire trés drôle et les déssins son trés insolites. Je ne sais pas si c’est sortie au canada mais si vous aimez cette BD , vous allez aimer encore plus le ce tome !
OK, we’re five days into the story. Some of the 80 or so refugees should start to get bored. Command /management might want to start cross-training pilots, medics, security, cooks, etc.
I can see Airman Becker getting bored and requesting security or medic duties in addition to “cooking”. He can’t be too long out of Basic, and I’m pretty sure that firearms and first aid are included.
He has not confirmed Season 2. Judging by the high rating for the first few episodes the producers need to be ready to present a 2nd season offer to MGM, and when MGM wants to discuss this the producers can’t very well show up with nothing in hand and just start throwing out ideas.
Spinning simply means that they will be throwing around ideas and attempting to come up with some kind of outline for where they want to go with Season 2.
Deni: Yes, I call the cops, and proud of it. I have several of their numbers (depending on which jurisdiction I’m in at the time) on my cell phone. Also, one thing I’ve learned living in Memphis is never make eye contact with another driver. A friend of mine had someone follow her (after she did make eye contact) in a high speed chase to her work. She didn’t have her cell phone but managed to make it to her work and lock herself in the building —-just ahead of him. Scary. I thought I would share that tidbit I learned from her. I don’t even want to think what would have happened if he caught up to her. They never caught him.
As for truck drivers, there are some good ones out there. My FIL was a one and he was a great guy. However, one of TN’s previous senators got into a shooting match with truckers out on I40 years ago. It’s the only time I sided with the senator, cause I’ve felt like shooting a few truckers on the Interstate myself.
I’m not sure how the senator managed not to get charged with attempted homicide but they caught him for corruption eventually. He is now in the prison system somewhere. Sorry to ramble 😀 . Just one or two of the Memphis stories that I find fascinating.
@Das: As a fellow human being, thank you for going to such lengths to watch out for this woman (and have police get her, too). Sometimes doing the right thing comes with additional baggage attached (like if you had to go to court and testify), but doing good things in the universe comes back to you tenfold in some manner.
Just loved “Light”! Wray became a person–way to pull her out the “annoying background” slot! Greer & Young were fabulous, together and separately. Finding out why Greer was in the brig was a HUGE payoff! Perfect!
Loved: Rush’s flinch when Young patted him on the back, Eli’s eyes when he was doing the math calculations, Young’s tears (I really want to punch Emily), “lotta work.”
Have I got this right: Spencer is the one who was stealing food earlier on, and now he’s taking medication TJ doesn’t know about? Or was it not Spencer both times?
My friend keeps bugging me for an answer. What camera do you use to film these clips with?
I don’t understand his obsessive questioning and it appears he will not be quieted. Then again, I have yet to try popping him in the mouth with my fist.
@Deni – at your post of “I knew about espectros being ghosts, but couldn’t figure out who possibly could have fit the bill!”
I know. It took a little while before I thought of something that makes sense (to me at least.) Do you remember the first season of Atlantis when we met the Wraith? Well, they were described as being able to make people see things that weren’t there. Another part of the definition that I got looking the “espectros” word up was an apparition/appearance. So, I’m guessing that this is why espectros was the operative word used.
Plus, Wraith are also dreaded so… makes sense to me…kinda sorta…?
Gilder: I agree with you about the medic wanting other duties. Why wouldn’t they rotate in the scunt jobs? Especially, non-trained personal vs. military or scientist.
@Deni – Oh yeah, and in some of the episodes when the Wraith are culling, you can see kind of ghostly phantom-like swirls going on around the people. But, I think this got dropped as an effect after season 1. Okay, I’m done now…really this time.
The pics on this posting was taken with Canon PowerShot SD1100 IS 8 Mega-Pixels digital camera. It’s no longer the cutting edge in mid-level cameras. Seen a lot of 10 to 12 Mega-Pixels camera introduce recently around the same price level.
Tell you friend to look up the properties of a photo to see if they have the camera info included.
@crazymom1. You wrote: Have I got this right: Spencer is the one who was stealing food earlier on, and now he’s taking medication TJ doesn’t know about? Or was it not Spencer both times?
Yes, you got it right. Both time it was Sgt. Spencer.
@Joe I wondered about a new IMDB entry on David Hewlett’s listing. Stargate:Extinction in pre-production phase? I know you said there are no news on this yet. Who is updating the IMDB database anyway?
@J and Deni. Just FYI, wordreference.com translates WRAITH as either ESPECTRO or FANTASMA.
@Elías. ¿Ya estrenó SGU en Argentina, o la vió por la red?
(Has SGU premiered in Arg., or did you see it on the Internet?)
Hmmm…so many good things have come from being an SG fan…friendships, of course, but also education. One of the Barcelona fans introduced me to wordreference.com…great online dictionary and translation tool.
@Joe – well, clearly you don’t see the Chloe and Scott thing – or these two characters as I (and at least some other viewers) do, or they wouldn’t be written that way. However, I *do* understand what you’re trying to show. I just don’t see it that way, though.
My problem with a sexual involvement with them at this point is that it’s not a “relationship.” To me, a relationship is something that takes more than a couple days to develop, even when you’re under, shall we say, stress. I do get it – and can accept – that for people in a life or death scenario, sex can be and often is a way of desperately clinging to life, expressing the need to stay alive, and so forth. When one is facing death, everything gets very intense.
However, my problems with these two, and the reason I just don’t believe it with them, is that Scott was screwing another woman apparently less than a week before, he’s known Chloe a bare handful of days, and so far, she is shown to have very few redeeming characteristics. We’re supposed to see her as – something, I suppose – that I haven’t seen. So far, I’ve seen an idiot whining that she can’t be alone in the dark, taking a shower before the commanding officer said it was ok to do so when water is obviously a scarce commodity, and doing utterly nothing worth anything. Now, you can certainly counter that she’s lost her dad so she’s grieving – ok, true, but everyone on that ship is grieving. When I’ve lost someone I love, my first response has not been to jump into the sack with someone I barely knew.
Further, with Scott, and this point I am sorry to belabor, but it is relevant here: I have a fundamental disrespect for people, no matter their age, who engage in what I think of as “stupid sex,” having had events in their lives that should have taught them how stupid it is. He as a teenager got a girl pregnant, and she had an abortion. Sure, people make mistakes. But this is a BIG mistake. People do make BIG mistakes, and I can certainly forgive them for such things. However, I personally would prefer them to *learn* from said mistakes, and avoid engaging in similar behavior again. I have trouble taking seriously people who don’t, especially if they’re people in positions requiring responsibility. It is certainly true that sometimes people have sex when they’ve known each other a day or two. Personally, I find that really dumb, but people do it. But he was having a sexual “relationship” no matter how casual with James only a few days before. That is creepy to me.
With Chloe, ok, I admit that my language regarding her reasons for having sex with Scott was too strong. However, what I saw with her was that it was obvious that Scott was going to be on the shuttle (Scott and TJ would have been my choices, given piloting and medical skills), and she was sleeping with him to get him to try to make sure she was on that shuttle. Yes, I know what she said after the sex, but I didn’t buy it.
I didn’t buy it because she’s not a believable character to me, and I do see her as manipulative. It’s fairly clear that I’m not alone in this. I’m not exactly part of the “kill Chloe” movement, but what I’d like to see from her is a real effort to make herself useful in some way. And I do think she’s manipulating Eli – her “affection” shown to him is more than of the just friends variety in terms of body language. She hangs on him, she holds his hand in a somewhat intimate way, and so forth.
Anyway, so that’s how I see it and why. I’m not trying to convince you that I’m right (‘cause you won’t agree with me anyway), but trying to explain why I see it that way.
Finally, I do appreciate it that the sex scene wasn’t creepy this time as it was with James, and I get it that the attempt was made to show that this was “relationship” sex rather than casual sex, and it was certainly pretty with the sun in the background and all, but see above. No matter how pretty, I don’t buy it. The characters as shown are not that convincing to me, even with pretty romantic backgrounds.
jlgrand
@ Rose
“I have yet to see a single person request that female characters “whine about their equal rights” so I would have to agree that it is “the predominant feeling of your audience male or female.”
@jlgrand: “That sentence makes no sense, even when you are trying to relate it to my words.”
I’m not offended by your words. I could only work with what I was given and your original comment was pretty incoherent.
@jlgrand: “My point was/is if Mr. M is to use all the posts as a symbol of women, they would be portrayed this way on the screen in a large group huddling in a corner, in a loud voice repeating “I don’t care if I’m 2 seconds from dying, I want to die ahead of you, man!” I have read so many negative, long-winded speeches on how SGU needs stronger women and these speeches are only from a FEW women. I have read the other posts on Gateworld (oh how short and not whiny).”
The funniest thing about that paragraph is that YOUR RANT is as LONG and WHINY as you are criticizing others for writing. We have been told this is a “character-driven” show. I have commented on “character”. Should I be bitching – as you are – because people dare to discuss technology and/or timelines? People can discuss what they want. It’s Joe’s blog, not mine – if he doesn’t like it, he can edit. It’s to his credit he doesn’t.
@jlgrand: “There are at least 2 military women. Being in the military takes strength. In ‘Air 1′ one of the women through the gate had white hair, so hopefully we will see her in the future. There is Camile Wray who confronts Young head-on, and many others that we have not seen yet. Chloe was an assistant to a Senator. There was a woman scientist that walked through the gate on the sand planet.”
Well, what I have said is that, up to the 1/4 of the season, women have not yet been seen as strong characters. Chloe was a Senators assistant because the Senator was her father. Wray folded like a puff of smoke when she got the possibility of a maybe pushback to her comments to Young. The rest have DONE nothing yet by your own statement. Your comments don’t refute anything I have said.
@Rose (formerly OhioAnne) “Now, some of the audience – male and female – have noticed that, up to this point, the women on Stargate Universe have been portrayed in a way that is more passive than strong in their point of view and stated that opinion. Is that what you are referring to as “whining”?
@jlgrand: “Yes that is it! *puts finger on nose as in charades* I understand it is a viewpoint, and you are welcome to it, as I have a right to mine. Or don’t I? According to you, I don’t since you feel the need to jump on my comment. Try letting one go for once that doesn’t agree with yours. Can you?”
Except, of course, I NEVER said that you don’t have a right to say what you think. Small incovenient fact there.
YOU jumped first on my comments. I responded.
You are the one complaining about the fact that I responded to your statement – not I.
@Rose (formerly OhioAnne)“Like you, I am a woman, but unlike you, I don’t find it “embarrassing” to state a viewpoint that differs from that of other people.”
@jlgrand: “I don’t find it embarrassing to state an alternate viewpoint. That is what I am doing. And here you mock me (incorrectly, I might add.) It is the sheer repetitiveness of your rants … omg… and I feel bad for women if this is how we are represented by a one-note women jury. SGU is a SHOW and ENTERTAINMENT. But I knew when posting my comment that I would only get negative stuff back from you and maybe Mary or Anne Teldy and maybe J. Because that is your ‘thing.’ Do you comment on any of my other opinions? No.”
So, in other words, you were trolling for someone to take your “bait”.
🙂 That’s funny!
@jlgrand: “Yes, I worked for 30 years as a professional watching all the female contingent go by the wayside because of marriage and babies. Wah. I did not and have no right to blame them; that was their choice. It left me the only one left to deal with the glass ceiling. Another Wah. I just don’t think it serves your (OUR if I may *snickers, as if*) purpose by writing about it all the time. It ends up desensitizing people to it, and antagonizing along the way. I am not the ‘enemy,’ I just think one can ‘catch more flies with honey.’ Women have come a very long way and there is still a long way to go. Is SGU completely misrepresenting woment? No. And I do think Chloe can be killed off at any minute.”
And you call your response here “honey”?
🙂 Again, that’s funny!
@jlgrand: “BTW My name is jlgrand, not jigrand. How can I find your rants about me if you misspell it? Thanks! Sorry about the LONG comment. I believe commenting here is a privilege. We can ‘take it outside’ if you want and continue the fisticuffs in private if you want my email, cuz that is where this stuff should go.”
Ummmmmmm…… my screenname is “Rose(formerly OhioAnne)” – not “Rose”. There happen to be two posters with the name “Rose” so I went back to using my previous screen name as well to differentiate between us.
If you have a problem with me, then please use the CORRECT username. Your misuse of the my name unfairly targets the poster who just goes by “Rose”.
Sounds like good times. 😀
Loved Light. I’m really enjoying the idea of the ‘mind’ of the Destiny. It’s as if it started flying towards the star, everyone aboard panicked, and it was all ‘dudes, chill. This is what I do’. Luff.
It appears most attendees enjoyed themselves, or at least knew how to look like they did for your camera Joe.
Were there good vibes at the wrap party? Did Brad or Rob make a speech? Could you summarize for us?
As to the Destiny, will we soon know if there is an AI on board?
Thasc’s comment got me thinking there may well be one. And perhaps Rush has found a way to communicate with it, eh?
Hope Paul M and Marty are feeling better. And I hope your Mom is treated soon if it is diverticulitis. Feel better soon Mrs. M!
All good vibes coming your way for a successful and productive Season 2 spin session with the guys. Go crazy, think outside the proverbial box… okay, okay, I won’t pester. Just go write good stuff.
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Hello again, Joe!
I like the photos, although I am a fair bit disappointed at the noticeable lack of you breakdancing. Though, I suppose we can’t win them all…
My question for the day is: any news on the Atlantis movie? I really hope the ‘word on the street’ about it being scrapped and made novel fodder is just a load of unfounded hogwash. I would love to see an Atlantis movie.
Hi Joe, thanks for taking so many pictures and sharing them with us. Here is to many many more SGU wrap parties!
Martin Gero twittered his stitched thumb. Eek, nasty look.
http://twitpic.com/mvcnv
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Good that it wasn’t too bad in the end.
Have fun with spinning season 2. I’m confident there will be a second season. The episodes are getting better and better. “Light” got mostly A and B on the Syfy forums. And those guys there are extremely sceptical regarding SGU.
I don’t know why, but Marty G. looks like a thin Seth Rogan (from the first hour or so of “Zach and Miri Make a Porno”) with that beard.
Also, in some of the pics here and during the last cast interview (with some group of reporters, from Europe I think) I noticed that some of the actors (David Blue, Louis Ferrara, and even Peter Kelamis and Patrick Gilmore above) seem to have let their hair grow out. I’m not sure why this interests me (no, I’m not a hair dresser) but is this something that was done to show that no one on Destiny has a pair of scissors or electric razor for cutting hair or just something the actors did naturally to change their hairstyles?
Good to see Mr. G. again, though I’m not sure about the whole facial hair thing. How many stitches? Hope your partner feels better soon. So, if you start spinning season two, when exactly does your share of the hiatus start? When would season two begin filming once the renewal is confirmed? While I’m not yet won over as an unabashed fan, the show has enough potential I’d like to see it have a chance to grow more. And yes, I know there is a lot in this season I’ve yet to see. Anyways, thanks for sharing and enjoy the “old times” at your favorite eatery.
When I drop a glass, it lands far from my hand.
Spin session. That sounds like the funnest work day ever. I’m jealous, jealous, jealous.
Sounds like y’all had a great time. Hope Marty G is ok.
Aw, it looks like people are enjoying themselves, thanks for sharing the photos. I hope that Paul is feeling better and Ashleigh also. Gotta be careful with that glass it can be slivery and cut easily, if you try to pick up the broken stuff, and Marty needs his hands to work or eat or,well you know.
That Carl, he is really not enjoying himself is he… and you really captured some nice blue eyes on Josh, thanks. Good looking bunch of friends you have there.
Hope you get some rest, those nights are short sometimes, coz maybe the dogs will require your attention since they didn’t get invited to the party.
Wow second season, seems like only yesterday you were writing on the first season. Congrats..
I’ve heard Kenny Gibbs referred to as “Evil” countless times. Do you know what the story is behind the nickname?
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Thanks!
Haha I was gonna come here and point out Marty G’s story as “the flip side” of Canada’s health care system…but I guess you saw it first-hand! Apparently, if you’re bleeding to death, they take reallllly good care of you!
Thanks so much for the pictures!!! I love how Ming-Na needs no introduction (it’s true!). I feel like Light really helped me get to know the other characters a lot more too, now. For example, I recognized Peter Kelamis, Julia Benson, Patrick Gilmore, and Josh Blacker before I even read their names, just from seeing them on the show (and, in all but the first case, on Twitter!). I absolutely adore that this show truly features an ensemble cast, all of whom we get to meet slowly as the show goes on. The storytelling is really superb!
Hi Joe, thanks for the pics, looks like you all enjoyed (well, except for Marty G. and Paul M., poor guys)!
While you’re spinning, how about a little less handheld camera work so Elway can watch SGU, too?
Be well, and here’s to a very productive week! Deni
First look at the new series V with Morena Baccarin (Adria the Orici)
http://www.fancast.com/tv/V/104617/1304788573/V%3A-A-First-Look-at-V!/videos
looks good
#2, any program capable of making decisions by itself is technically an artificial intelligence; after that, it’s all a matter of degree. The Destiny has definitely displayed decision-making abilities in the aired episodes, from finding the crew an appropriate planet to get the lime from in Air, to realising it was low on power and heading for an appropriate star, aerobraking manoeuvre already plotted, in Darkness.
It’s demonstrating an interesting level of forethought and intelligent planning. I understand that a later episode is set to deal with Rush’s various experiments with the computer, so we’ll see what happens there. 🙂
I kinda thought Marty G was looking a bit Elvis Costello-y. Anyone else?
Since you’re exhausted, just a few remarks:
Marty G. — lookin’ good with the beard. Glad to read no knives were involved in blood-loss incident.
Ivon B. — I know that one: “accio wand” with a twist — the wand comes with a drink refill, fortunately or not so much. Rockin’ this suit, too; French cuffs are a great touch.
Patrick G. — Despite caption, looks a bit to me like you’re asking Joe to pony up for a betting loss. (j/k)
Carl B. — good to see smile when posing with the ladies. I understand you could have used the “accio wand” spell during pickpocket attempt by a Hungarian dragon.
Lawren, Ashleigh, and James — Nice looks all around, hoping a good time was had by all.
Joe — Couldn’t find pic of you. Will look again when new contacts come in.
Thanks very much for posting all the great snaps. I hope you sleep well. Good luck with second-season story spinning. Another round of thanks to all cast and crew. GO SGU!
Joe,
Still flipping out over how good “Light” was. Come in strong tomorrow for SGU Season 2 – keep the epicness coming!
Signed,
The Ancients
“I’m exhausted and need to be on my A game tomorrow when we start spinning SGU’s second season.”
I take it that is unofficial?
On another note: Light was extremely well made. I dare say that the potential I saw for the series after the three part pilot is beginning to pay off.
Yay! Second season!!! I’ve been traveling for tge weekend. Going back tomorow. Man is Jamil ripped!!(sgu light). Even me, a heterosexual male, would like to see more of buff Greer shirtless!!! What workout does he do. Sign me up!!!!
Thanks so much,
Major D. Davis
Loved the idea of solar power in this form. I wonder what Rush was reading…
Next time you see Carl, hold up a mirror and see what he does. If I’m right, he’ll practice his next face for you.
How long did it take for the folks to name the next planet ‘Hoth’?
Hope Kenny is stayin Evil
Hey Joe,
Wonderful show-n-tell from the wrap party. Thank you. It is nice seeing so many from the show. A little sad that the group is heading out in different directions for the hiatus. Always kind of nice when you talk about being at the office and everyone dropping in. hmmmmm
But, we do have many episodes ahead of us. Each has been great. When do you find out if the show is picked up for Season 2? See that was a question…so next mail bag I will hope to see it there.
Best to you Joe,
Cheryl 🙂
reedme please. hola s0y elias de argentina y tuve el placer de ver la nueva serie sgu y no pude dejar de preguntarme si el equipo del destiny tendran algun enemigo fijo como los goauld o los espectros como paso en sus otras series .
ademas note que no se ve el agujero de gusano , y ningun planeta tiene un dhd para marcar sin la consola que traen de la nave ,ademas la serie no tiene tema de presentacion .
perdon no quise sonar muy quejon .la serie me encanta y le veo potencial
t’loc, that V link doesn’t work for me.
I like how Universe is giving such a large group of characters their chance to shine. The distinction between major and minor characters is not especially big. It’s great to get to know them all episode by episode, even when what we learn about them isn’t always of the good.
As Destiny is a super intelligent ship does that mean that it is a ‘she’?
Fondy seems to be MIA – I hope that she is well.
Susan
t’loc, never mind, I realised that i had to copy the link rather than clicking it due to being split across lines.
…except that I get ‘this content is currently unavailable’. oh well. And sorry for the triplepost.
1.) Why the hell are all of Carl’s facial expressions *always* so awesome? Seriously? I need to take acting lessons from the guy, I really do…
2.) Hope you all enjoyed the wrap party. Have fun spinning tomorrow. As has been said, think outside the box! You’re doing a great job so far this season. I can’t wait to see what comes up far, far ahead.
3.) Beating a dead horse. Give us more information on the telefilms. I don’t care if MGM hasn’t told you anything, break into their headquarters and find out! Please.
Thanks for answering my question about the chevron address the other day. So far I am enjoying SGU and eagerly awaiting the next episode to feature RDA!! which would be earth…only 2 more weeks!
ps. i feel bad for eli and found someones comment saying lt. scott is kirking it up hilarious.
Please keep us updated on your Mom, Mr. M. I know I am concerned.
I loved ‘Light.’ I loved every bit of it (except Chloe who needs to be killed ASAP). I watched it 3 times. Does that count as 3 people watching once? Do I need to buy more TVs? The show is so great on my 50″ plasma and is just like going to the theater, especially since I can’t go to the theater anymore.
Reading all the posts about feminism, etc. please don’t start writing women whining about their equal rights. I am so embarrassed about it as a woman, and I don’t believe it’s the predominant feeling of your audience male or female.
Sounds like a wild – or disappointing – time. Guests that can’t make it through to dessert, others rushed to the hospital, and one or two spotaneous combustions. Personally, I think your chocolate parties sound like more fun.
Big day for me – services, friends visiting from Idaho, catching up over lunch, a hike with Mr. Das in the sand dunes, neighbor drama, and a dinner party that included a nice mix of Italian, Latino/Hispanic, and soul food, topped off with half of us playing Spades, and the rest playing some crazy palor game in which my very own Mr. Das blurted out “Man Muffins!” at a most inappropriate time.
But the ‘highlight’ of the day was stopping by the local Wawa (I’d rather not explain, so here: http://www.wawa.com/WawaWeb/Default.aspx ) to grab something desserty for the party. I waited in the car, and this lady walked past me…cursing up a storm and staggering all over the place. I was tempted to call the cops, but didn’t see if she came from a car, or walked from a nearby development. She came back out about the same time we were leaving – and sure enough, she got into a car. Again I didn’t call the cops because I thought that maybe she had Tourette’s. Really. I mean, she just seemed to be cursing for the sake of cursing. There were no Mallozziesque strategically placed f-bombs, or anything, just profanity upon profanity. Seemed she was f’ing pissed at the sidewalk, and whatever she had in her plastic Wawa bag, and – I think – her shoes. Had to be Tourette’s. So, she gets in her car and heads towards the south exit, while we headed towards the north, and I told Mr. Das to let her go first, just in case…
Well, she pulled out of the south exit, headed north, and as she passed us she swerved onto the shoulder and ran up over the curb. We followed (because it was the direction we were going), and now I called the cops. She was too far ahead to read her plate, but she was all over the road. In the middle, on the shoulder…driving like a crazy person. She got slowed up by traffic at an intersection, and I gave the cops her plate number.
Now – the reason I did this was because the woman was an absolute danger, and I really hoped that the cops would catch her in action. I didn’t want to get ‘involved’ beyond reporting a dangerous driver. Yeah. No such luck.
After she went through the intersection, she started driving north in the southbound lane, with cars coming towards her (though far enough off that they avoided a head on collision, thank god). The dispatcher is still talking to me, asking me what the woman is doing. I tell her that the woman turned off onto a side street. Okay, I guess at this point they deputized us or something, because now they ask us to follow her, and find out where she’s going. She pulled into a driveway…they ask us to find the house number, and wait in the area for the officers to arrive, all the while asking me questions. “Did you see her get out of the car?” “Did you see her go into the house?” I felt like I was on a stake-out, or something. Finally
our reliefthe cops show up, we give them the info, and they tell us we can go. But they did take our name and number, and now I’m worried that we’ll get sucked into something I REALLY don’t want to be sucked into. I just wanted a dangerous driver off the road before someone got killed. This is a small town…’rat’ on someone, and next thing you know, there’s a horse head in your bed.Ugh. I am so doomed. 😛
das
Oh, dang…I forgot to mention:
Marty G – if you are reading this, thumbs up on the suit! It’s really sharp! (Hope you didn’t bleed all over it…) And for everyone’s sake, never, EVER dorkout again in plaid. My eyes thank you in advance.
Carl B – Cor, love a duck…you scrubbed up! 😉
Have a good evening, Joe…or morning…or whenever you get around to this. Hope Mamma Mallozzi is feeling better!
das
@Das. no good deed goes unpunished. But if she’d run into a family member or a friend, or even a stranger’s child, you’d find it harder to live with yourself than you will putting up with the odd equine cranial decorations in your yard. Ya done good.
it was cool seeing you two at Fuel today
@Joe M–Will translate Elias’ post for you in AM. Past my bedtime.
@Elias–Traducciré su mensaje por la mañana. Ya pasó mi hora de descanso.
Hey Joe,
I enjoyed Light very much (as I have every episode thus far). I was wondering though if it is explained exactly how the Destiny used the star to power her systems. Did she scoop up stellar matter or did she have really efficient solar panels? If she did scoop up stellar matter, how did it get past the shields? Just being curious.
I thought the acting was just great on this one. Especially the lottery drawing/shuttle departure and how everyone on Destiny was facing death in their own way. How the characters faced what they thought was the end really gave us insight into who they are.
As always, looking forward to more, and I hope the start of the season 2 story spinning goes well and is not in vain. 🙂
It took a while before it sunk in…….did you just confirm Season 2????
Of course I’m sure MGM & SyFy have known for a while that they’d do Season 2, they just hadn’t told you.
Coolies….on with the spinnin’
Thx 4 the pix..everyone looks gorgeous. The Ivon pic gives me an idea…not telling tho’, that would spoil the surprise. But there are a couple of pix missing. Firstly, where are you? I’m sure you looked awesome but we need some proof you didn’t roll up in t-shirt & jeans. Also did you happen to snap a pic of BamBam? Haven’t seen him in a suit.
Please tell Martin the beard looks fantastic, really suits him. Glad he’s OK. At least he got stitches. I sliced my finger on some broken ceramics and all the hospital gave me was a butterfly bandage. Of course I lean towards McKay on those issues.
Thanks to everyone for their hard work this season.
Cheers, Chev
What?! You didn’t post graphic images of Marty G’s injuries? How do you expect to maintain your blog followers?
Just watched Light, once again a good episode. Though, I think its the weakest of the season so far. As soon as the ship was revealed to be on a direct course for the sun, I was like “Oh, that ship has to have solar panels or something. The ship did that on purpose”. Are you telling me no one on that ship thought that may be a possibility? Well I guess Rush may have. And that was the most interesting part of the episode. Who is this Guy? Did He know? He looked as surprised and happy as the rest of them. Maybe he just wants to be hated. We will probably never know. While I appreciated the pace of Darkness I kinda wished Light would have been faster.
Greer hitting that loud mouth Sgt.-Awesome!
Greer hit Telford- More Awesome! (Please tell me that is shown in a flashback)
Eli and Scott are still sunburnt- I love the consistency
I love airmen Becker (the cook)- Just look at his face when Wray boards the shuttle crying
I am impressed with Young’s strength of character, He is someone that is easy to respect
The music was fantastic!
Looking forward to seeing the next episode. Especially because its not a two or three parter.
Thanks Joe, your awesome.
Joe,
Thank you so much for sharing the photos. Hope Martin Gero’s hand heals swiftly, and that Paul Mullie is feeling better as well.
Best wishes!
@ Das, You did the responsible thing dudette:) I’ll see your horses head and raise you a horses ass….that doesn’t sound quite right…:)
@jigrand
Reading all the posts about feminism, etc. please don’t start writing women whining about their equal rights. I am so embarrassed about it as a woman, and I don’t believe it’s the predominant feeling of your audience male or female.
I have yet to see a single person request that female characters “whine about their equal rights” so I would have to agree that it is “the predominant feeling of your audience male or female.”
Now, some of the audience – male and female – have noticed that, up to this point, the women on Stargate Universe have been portrayed in a way that is more passive than strong in their point of view and stated that opinion. Is that what you are referring to as “whining”?
Like you, I am a woman, but unlike you, I don’t find it “embarrassing” to state a viewpoint that differs from that of other people.
Did Josh Blacker originally audition for the role of Ron “Psycho” Stasiak? He looks like a badass.
Not that I don’t like Greer or anything, just wondering.
i liked Light way more than darkness. i honestly didnt expect the whole recharge thing although it came to mind back then before SGU aired. but never into the star, i thought just a driveby would do.
Coucou Joseph!!!
Me voila!! ça va ? Moi oui j’ai passer une trés bon week end à Paris!
j’ai visité le Louvre mais surtout j’ai découvert pleins de nouvelles saveurs gustatives et j’ai fait comme vous j’ai pris ma nourriture en photo…ahhh c’est si bon et agréable à voir!
Waou déja ! Vous avez vite tournez la saison 1 je suis impatientes de voir le final de cette saison.
Merci de nous faire partager ces super photos!
Gros bisou bisou
je vous adore!
Hi Joe!
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Quick review of Light by li’l ol’ me. 🙂 I really liked it. It was an emotional episode for me. I was tearing up for the first half in sympathy for the fear and emotion everyone was going through, especially Wray. I reacted as strongly to this episode as I did to The Shrine and almost as much as a I did to Unending. Thanks for the card-playing and praying scenes.
I thought Scott & Chloe’s scene was tasteful and rather romantic sexy. If I was in that kind of situation and had bonded with Scott (and was Chloe’s age), yeah, I would’ve slept with him. (Nothing wrong with Eli – he’s a super cutie and I like snuggly teddy bears. Definitely doable.) I was sad for Eli, but I’m glad he didn’t go all creepy violent and throw stuff in his room or make an inappropriate pass at Chloe. Snuggly teddy bear. That’s cool. 🙂
OMGed, if I could never hear the term “Kirking” used in relation to an SG character, I would be a very happy woman. I’ll have to deal with being a mostly very happy woman cuz people think if a character sleeps with, say, three people in five years, they are total sluts. (Should I include a link to dictionary.com?) Going obscure – not sure what lead characters sleeping with beautiful willing partners has to do with churches anyway. ;P
Greer. Amazing. Took down Spencer for long time in one hit. Saluted Young. His Kino Confession. Wanted to go out of this life like he came in. His incredibly sexy body (more please).
Spencer is a wild card. He’s on Rx meds, so it’ll be interesting how he deals with running out. I thought he was going to come in at the end and either beat up or shoot Greer. Wild card.
Young continues to be fantastic. Not sure he was right in letting the shuttle people be by lottery, but it fits with my sense of fairness.
Rush was cool when he thanked Eli for showing him the outside of Destiny. Not so cool at end.
Again, Wray was the emotional centerpiece for me. She was right to bring up the “you pick them” to Young. I think, of course, that she wanted to be in the chosen. Can’t blame her as EVERYONE WAS GOING TO DIE, but I think she also wanted the people who would best help the survivors to be included. Her “Please” to Young was so heart-breaking, as well as her good-bye to Sharon. (I’m tearing up just thinking about it.)
Speaking of the ending, what an ending! You guys fooled us with the crew sitting around the table, laughing at facing death and surviving, giving us a very lovely SG moment, and Young makes the point of reaching out to Rush and complimenting him. Then the weirdness starts.
Would Rush actually sacrifice the supplies loaded on the shuttle just to get rid of 15 people? As I’m seeing it right now, he’s trying to empty the ship of everyone except him (and maybe a few others). Or at least he was trying to convey that feeling. Weird.
Love the “truly solar-powered” engines!
eddy
Hey Joe
Looks like a nice party. What about David and Elyse, did they not show? What about Robert Carlyle? Speaking of Robert, I saw “The Tournament” yesterday, congrats to Robert for that!
@dasNdanger – You had me there for a sec. Thought you were up in Canada, what with the Wawa reference. Clicked the link and you kinda confused me a bit more, company logo has a Canada Goose. You see the town of Wawa is kinda known for the Canada Goose. See here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wawa_ON_3.jpg
It’s seen better days, the community’s having a bit of trouble.
Elminster
Hi Joe, figured I’d try to answer these questions in Spanish for you, let me know if I’m overstepping. Basically, this person was asking if we were going to see an enemy (as in Goauld, although I have no idea what the “espectros” are, maybe the Ori?), was curious as well about not seeing a wormhole or a DHD and wanted to know why there is no musical theme to the show. I just told him we’d all have to wait and see, that the show has just begun, that sort of thing. I know you answered the query as to why no theme to the show (somewhere), but I told Elias I have no idea why because, well, I don’t. Gosh, I’m SUCH a help.
@Elias: Hola Elias, aunque no estoy segura, creo que por aqui no hay muchos que hablen nuestra lengua, asi que te escribo lo poco que se. Muchos han preguntado lo mismo que tu, pero creo que en respuesta a tus preguntas, tendremos que esperar a ver que pasa porque hasta ahora, nadie sabe mas que tu. En lo que al tema de presentacion (y perdona que no tengo tildes aqui) se refiere, creo que simple y sencillamente decidieron no ponerle uno, no se porque. En mi opinion, creo que es mejor esperar a ver que pasa y no saber de antemano. Acuerdate que la series acaba de empezar, pero Stargate nunca ha dejado de sorprendernos y entretenernos. Que estes bien!
@Cherluvya
I think Joe said they would know by January the latest. My guess is it will happen a tad sooner. 🙂
Oh I was wandering is there any chance that there will be any sort of regenerative technologies lurking in the shadows? Sarcophagus types of technologies? And i want to know about the dark asgard business!!!!!!!!!!!! Which episodes?
what do you think of the horror series of SAW movies?
@Das: Lauren (daughter) and I were coming back from Tampa last week and had to call the Highway Patrol while on I-75. Lauren was driving, doing about 75 mph in the middle lane, just keeping up with the flow of traffic. I’ll preface by saying that I hate that stretch of highway (lots of deaths), starting about 30 miles south of Gainesville. It was dark, traffic was insane, and she got boxed in by 4 trucks. Apparently, the truck driver behind us (huge trucks, by the way) didn’t think she was driving fast enough and leaned on his horn while literally riding our bumper. There was really nowhere for her to go, so I just told her to keep driving and to try to relax. I immediately called the cops, thinking they would probably not do anything. We gave them a description of the truck and figured that was the end of that. He finally passed us on the left lane and did the same thing to other drivers, but by then we had his license plate number. He almost caused an accident ahead of us, and some poor guy wound up on the side of the highway because of this guy. A while later, the police called me back, asked me where we were in relation to the truck (at least a half a mile behind him by then because he was obviously in a huge rush to get where he was going), asked us to turn on our hazzard lights because there was a cop looking for him, and sure enough, the cop flew by us and went after him. They asked for our address as well, but nothing came of it, so I wouldn’t worry too much. You did a good thing!
Deni and Das: Sounds like an average day in Memphis. What’s the big deal? 😀
Mr. M, Thanks so much for all the pictures! Are there any ugly people working on the show? I didn’t think so. 😉
T
@ Elminster – The town where the dairy started is named for the Ojibwe word for ‘goose’ – thus the goose in there logo. I suspect the same holds true for the town in Ontario.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wawa,_Pennsylvania
Wawas are good little convenience stores, mainly because they are corporate owned, not franchised, which means you usually don’t get the dirty, rundown conditions some ‘quickie marts’ experience. No lottery also means quick checkout lines. They are always remodeling and updating, keeping the interiors clean and the products well-stocked. And they employ a lot of people in the area, whereas many franchised markets are run by individual families, offering few – if any – job opportunities in the community.
And thanks, everyone, for reassuring me that we did the right thing. Hopefully things will work out okay.
das
Hiya Joe,
I was catching up on the blog after being back home (Wisconsin) for a family funeral and found this:
October 22, 2009: Julia Benson! Jennifer Spence! Birthday Swag! The Weird Food Purchase of the Day!
Terry writes: “Do the bacon-chocolate chip cookies really have bacon in them? Even when I was eating bacon, I couldn’t imagine that combo.”
Answer: Yep, real bacon. It’s a very nice savory, sweet, and smoky taste medley.
Cool! So glad you A) got them; and B) seemed to enjoy them.
I have to say I am with Terry on my initial opinion of the cookies tasted them cautiously. I’d have to say…not bad. Not my first choice, but not bad.
But…having seen your post about bacon knew they were just for you.
So, all the best on your birthday (somewhat belated) and we’re really enjoying SGU.
Best,
Polly
Dang it. I sure wish wordpress would let us edit! Meant to turn off that italics. Bummer.
@ Rose
“I have yet to see a single person request that female characters “whine about their equal rights” so I would have to agree that it is “the predominant feeling of your audience male or female.”
That sentence makes no sense, even when you are trying to relate it to my words. My point was/is if Mr. M is to use all the posts as a symbol of women, they would be portrayed this way on the screen in a large group huddling in a corner, in a loud voice repeating “I don’t care if I’m 2 seconds from dying, I want to die ahead of you, man!” I have read so many negative, long-winded speeches on how SGU needs stronger women and these speeches are only from a FEW women. I have read the other posts on Gateworld (oh how short and not whiny).
There are at least 2 military women. Being in the military takes strength. In ‘Air 1’ one of the women through the gate had white hair, so hopefully we will see her in the future. There is Camile Wray who confronts Young head-on, and many others that we have not seen yet. Chloe was an assistant to a Senator. There was a woman scientist that walked through the gate on the sand planet.
“Now, some of the audience – male and female – have noticed that, up to this point, the women on Stargate Universe have been portrayed in a way that is more passive than strong in their point of view and stated that opinion. Is that what you are referring to as “whining”?
Yes that is it! *puts finger on nose as in charades* I understand it is a viewpoint, and you are welcome to it, as I have a right to mine. Or don’t I? According to you, I don’t since you feel the need to jump on my comment. Try letting one go for once that doesn’t agree with yours. Can you?
“Like you, I am a woman, but unlike you, I don’t find it “embarrassing” to state a viewpoint that differs from that of other people.”
I don’t find it embarrassing to state an alternate viewpoint. That is what I am doing. And here you mock me (incorrectly, I might add.) It is the sheer repetitiveness of your rants … omg… and I feel bad for women if this is how we are represented by a one-note women jury. SGU is a SHOW and ENTERTAINMENT. But I knew when posting my comment that I would only get negative stuff back from you and maybe Mary or Anne Teldy and maybe J. Because that is your ‘thing.’ Do you comment on any of my other opinions? No.
Yes, I worked for 30 years as a professional watching all the female contingent go by the wayside because of marriage and babies. Wah. I did not and have no right to blame them; that was their choice. It left me the only one left to deal with the glass ceiling. Another Wah. I just don’t think it serves your (OUR if I may *snickers, as if*) purpose by writing about it all the time. It ends up desensitizing people to it, and antagonizing along the way. I am not the ‘enemy,’ I just think one can ‘catch more flies with honey.’ Women have come a very long way and there is still a long way to go. Is SGU completely misrepresenting woment? No. And I do think Chloe can be killed off at any minute.
BTW My name is jlgrand, not jigrand. How can I find your rants about me if you misspell it? Thanks! 🙂 Sorry about the LONG comment. I believe commenting here is a privilege. We can ‘take it outside’ if you want and continue the fisticuffs in private if you want my email, cuz that is where this stuff should go.
I was riding with hubby in the semi, and we were going through a crawling detour in a town onto an interstate. A woman came up beside us in the right turn only lane, then tried to cut in front of us. The problem was, she never got up to the front of the truck. We couldn’t move over or stop in the intersection, so hubby kept driving slowly forward, figuring she’d just drop back. Nope. She kept going, moving closer and closer to the side of the truck! Flipping us off too, which was weird, where did she think the big rig was going to go? She looked up in time to avoid the concrete k-rail she was about to drive into… but did she veer to the right? Nope, she turned left, directly under the trailer! Luckily, hubby has fast reflexes and stopped the truck. That little car was untouched, but stopped between his rear tandem tires and the drop-down turn signal. She could have died right under our wheels! She flew past us once we all got on the intersection and we called her in, but I have no idea if anything came of it. She did make the load shift, and hubby had to spend extra hours taking the cheese curds in giant containers to a salvage company, then washing out the trailer.
Wisconsin imports cheese curds from Idaho. That’s like cheating!
Mr. M, just one question please? The crew of SGU are on a gruel die. Do they start losing weight? Some of the crew would start to look emaciated on that diet for long.
T
I mean a gruel diet, not die. Sorry.
T
@Deni – I just read your post. “Espectros” are Wraith in spanish. I know this because I watch all of the Atlantis episodes on DVD with the subtitles, and this is the word they always use when the people on the show are talking about the Wraith.
It’s interesting, because when I looked it up to see if the word had any special meaning (as in why not just use the word Wraith when speaking/using spanish) and its origin (at least when I looked) took me from english to french (spectre)/Latin. It’s basically something to fear or dread, a phantom/ghost or spectacle. This is probably more than you want to know. Shutting up now…
Peace & Love,
J
Great blog, great post, but I’d like more pictures of your puppies, much more regularly and frequently! They are adorable! Thanks!!
Hey, I’m in Worcester until thursday. Sitting in a Premier Inn (clean and anonymous) 180 miles away from my housework YAY!!!!!
Saw some horrific examples of driving coming up. Funny how many people don’t realise that there are no FAST lanes on a motorway merely two overtaking lanes.
I wish we had the opportunity to contact police whilst driving but unless you’re reporting a racially motivated or homophobic crime they don’t want to know!
@jlgrand – I think I spelled this correctly. I just read your post:
“But I knew when posting my comment that I would only get negative stuff back from you and maybe Mary or Anne Teldy and maybe J. ”
I personally didn’t have anything to say, that is, until you DRAGGED my name into this. I have NOTHING to do with your quibble with someone else’s comments. And, by the way, being “negative” is ABSOLUTELY NOT MY THING. You seem to think that if everyone does not give a glowing review of everything they see that negativity is their thing. “IF” this is what you think, then fine by me. You are entitled to your opinions. But again, please keep me out of your disputes with other people.
Thank you,
J
@Tammy Dixon: The “big deal” here is that Gainesville is a college town and many kids die on that road. After living in Miami for 20+ years, I know exactly what you’re talking about – the crazies are everywhere. For any inexperienced driver, it can be daunting, at best. I can also tell you that every time one of my kids gets on that stretch of highway, even a nice Jewish girl will say a Hail Mary and pray to all the saints to preserve them! When I see something so blatant as what happened last week, hell yes, I’ll call the cops! On a lighter note, Lauren was saying (while laughing her ass off) that if it was up to me, those “bastard morons” (yep, that was my big insult) would be beheaded on the highway by the police. That’ll teach ’em to honk at us 🙂
Bonjour Joseph Mallozzi. A ce que je vois, vous avez fait une petite fête. J’ai une petite question pour le mailbag:
Comment-ça se fait que le symbole “Aquila” soit absent des DHD dans Stargate Sg1 ?
Bonne journée à vous Joseph.
@jlgrand – Oh, and here are some positive things:
– If one thinks happy thoughts, then one can be happy.
– Puppies are beautiful – as I’ve said these last few days.
– It’s nice to be nice.
Have a nice day~
J
@J and Deni–Y’all beat me to it and did well. I might still take a stab. Still hope to take grad courses in translation starting Spring 2010.
Elias’ final paragraph, because it’s complimentary:
perdon no quise sonar muy quejon .la serie me encanta y le veo potencial
I didn’t mean to sound like a complainer. I love the series, and I see potential.
@jlgrand and rose:
There are plenty of women in SGU. I’m just yanking Joe’s chain. *grin*
Throughout the franchise’s history, TPTB has tended to cast female roles with young, thin actresses, but has used males of all shapes and sizes. I’d just like to see more women of middle age who don’t work out daily.
@AV_eddy and all others who watch SGU:
I loved your entire review of Light. Re: gender politics in particular, I’d like to respond to the following:
“OMGed, if I could never hear the term “Kirking” used in relation to an SG character, I would be a very happy woman. I’ll have to deal with being a mostly very happy woman cuz people think if a character sleeps with, say, three people in five years, they are total sluts. (Should I include a link to dictionary.com?) Going obscure – not sure what lead characters sleeping with beautiful willing partners has to do with churches anyway. ;P”
Yes, once again we confront the double standard as it applies to sexual behavior. That’s something I was incredibly dismayed to see approx. seven years ago from an otherwise progressive-minded 17-yr-old on a Harry Potter fansite I used to frequent. Her equivalent of “Kirking” was the all too often seen phrase, “the town bicycle – everyone gets a ride.” Other site-users were quick to point out the existence of horndogs, gigolos, and man-whores. They’re all over the place — face-to-face world or internet, they’re easily seen by people of all types who keep their eyes open and are willing to call ’em as they see ’em. — With that in mind, I’m the last person on the list of “right to criticize” vis-à-vis horndogs, and would also like to point out that I am *in no way* referring to any SGU-connected internet contacts.
It boggles my mind that the majority seem to be more focused on the fact that Ms. Armstrong slept with Lt. Scott, than they are on the fact that Chloe, in no uncertain terms, made it clear to Matt that being a Senator’s daughter with no particular survival skills — that she would not be a good candidate for unknown-world survival, and requested Scott not to even raise the issue of her being Young’s second choice, even though Scott stated that as his preference. As we saw, he didn’t try to use his influence with Young (would’ve gotten “ranked out” three rungs or so even if he had) — and in both cases, viewers had the opportunity to see two fairly young adults showing the entire crew what personal integrity and morality (where it matters the most) is all about.
Yes, they slept together. My guess is that Ms. Armstrong, as an attractive young woman who could have had any number of suitors, has a strong enough sense of responsibility to have had at least a small supply of contraceptives (likely the b.c. pill) among her personal effects, if her purse survived the hurried evacuation to the Destiny. More importantly, condoms, b.c. pills, and spermicidal devices would very likely be high-priority on the list of military supplies for a mixed-gender group.
Makes it very ironic that the Scottish term for church is “kirk,” doesn’t it?
Bottom line: Chloe Armstrong is very bright, a strong advocate (the Icarus Project; cf. Syfy’s character profiles), caring, and responsible and altruistic where the rubber meets the road (no pun intended). Yes, she and Matthew Scott both need to mature; still, she has a lot of potential for providing sound administrative (and possibly “medic-in-training”) type skills, somewhere down the line — say, under Camile Wray’s, TJ Johanssen’s, and Col. Young’s more-than-competent eyes. In a borrowed workout outfit, she could learn more about basic hand-to-hand combat, as well as weapons-handling, from the awesome MSgt. Greer, 2nd Lt. James, or 1st Lt. Scott, or from anyone else on board who has such skills. She and Eli could be classmates and homework-partners in that regard. I’m just putting well-earned trust in Brad Wright and Robert Cooper, plus the entire producer/writer team, to develop the show in a way that maintains as much fan interest as possible, so SGU will have as many seasons as needed to tell its story completely.
I am *so* not getting this “Kill Chloe” grass-roots movement. To repeat myself and many other commenters: It’s a character-focused show. How about if the viewers do SGU’s uber-talented showrunners a major courtesy in being as patient as they’ve been in letting the characters’ strengths unfold over time, instead of just harping on their weaknesses?? Most of the comments I’ve read heretofore on Joe’s blog come from bright, unusually open-minded people — time to step up to the plate and be prepared for any/all pitches, folks — or risk losing the best sci-fi TV show currently in production.
Takin’ it to the streets re. sharing my SGU enthusiasm with family, friends, neighbors, even the occasional complete stranger. One does what one can.
Explain to me why in “Darkness” during the eli/chole shower scene why was the room with the shower open, if its a shower should it not have a door?
Also with all its technology it (the ship) does not have a shower per crew-quarters?
I like the show I want it to success but apart from episode 3 the rest at times feel forced, too much information too soon adds to the slowness of the various episodes.
Joe – Still thinking about your mom, your sis, and you, and hoping for the best of all possible outcomes.
I will try to avoid posting discrimination complaints for the next couple of weeks, as it seems they have touched some nerves.
@Jlgrand: among numerous things, you said, “But I knew when posting my comment that I would only get negative stuff back from you and maybe Mary or Anne Teldy and maybe J. Because that is your ‘thing.’ Do you comment on any of my other opinions? No.”
Maybe Rose and I don’t comment on your other opinions, but we sure both comment on your opinions about our opinions on sexism. That is something we’re allowed to do.
We also comment on OTHER opinions on OTHER topics. Is that ok with you?
To comment on your opinion on the subject of women in Stargate, yes, I would agree that military women would have to be strong, almost by definition. However, if their part in the story line is merely to support the male characters (TJ) or whine and have sex with a guy she’s known a handful of days (Chloe, although she’s not military) or have sex with a guy in a storage room and then stand around with a gun, she’s not a strong woman or part of the story. She’s wallpaper.
Re Wray’s confrontation of Young: she ended it by begging. This isn’t strength, IMO. Now, the scene with her that rang true for me is when she was crying in the shuttle: no matter what happened to the people when they got to the planet, assuming they survived, she knew that she had lost any hope for ever returning to her life and her family. I don’t think that was weak, btw, but her scene with Young did not show strength to me.
So this is the overall objection with women in the show: they are stereotypes, cookie cutters and wallpaper thus far. We are five hours into the first season of 20 hours. This is a really bad sign. This is called sexism; that you disagree is fine. You have that right. But I am becoming quite amused that there are those who can’t stand our opinions so badly that they criticize us for stating them, rather than countering them with some sort of, well, hmm, evidence from the show. Those who disagree, fine; I think they’re wrong but they can say what they think as much as I can say what I think.
I’m also somewhat amused that you have a problem with our disagreement with your statement and the fact that we don’t “let it go.” I figure when I post something here, anyone else here can ignore it, can agree with it, or can disagree with it. It’s out in the ether. The same thing applies to your messages.
Oh, yes, I’m not entirely sure what you meant by your “embarrassed as a woman” thing, but feel free to be embarrassed for yourself. I’m not ashamed of MY opinions or my statement of same.
Finally, yeah, I’m pretty long-winded. I’m an attorney. It comes with the territory. There are days when I swear to myself I’m going to write a shorter post. Sometimes I manage. If you don’t like to see my messages, please don’t read them.
Mary
Me revoila!
Dites je me posais une question, vous n’avez pas de compte skype, msn ou autre ? car c’est dommage on parle toujours par message interposer (Q/A) . Je voudrais bien avoir un comversation écrite avec vous un jour. De toute façon si vous aurez ce type de compte vous n’iriez pas le chanter sur tout les toit, même à moi.
Si vous voulez me faire parvenir des info Top secret vous avez mon email ;-)===> bon ok je sort lol
A demain
Bisou.
ah oui..roh j’ai encore oublier quelque chose. Vendredi mon pére ma acheter le derniére Astérix & Obélix, il s’appel “l’anniversaire d’Astérix et Obélix – Le livre d’or” Il est génial !!!! Je trouve l’histoire trés drôle et les déssins son trés insolites. Je ne sais pas si c’est sortie au canada mais si vous aimez cette BD , vous allez aimer encore plus le ce tome !
Bisou, a demain!
OK, we’re five days into the story. Some of the 80 or so refugees should start to get bored. Command /management might want to start cross-training pilots, medics, security, cooks, etc.
I can see Airman Becker getting bored and requesting security or medic duties in addition to “cooking”. He can’t be too long out of Basic, and I’m pretty sure that firearms and first aid are included.
He has not confirmed Season 2. Judging by the high rating for the first few episodes the producers need to be ready to present a 2nd season offer to MGM, and when MGM wants to discuss this the producers can’t very well show up with nothing in hand and just start throwing out ideas.
Spinning simply means that they will be throwing around ideas and attempting to come up with some kind of outline for where they want to go with Season 2.
@J: I knew about espectros being ghosts, but couldn’t figure out who possibly could have fit the bill!
Deni: Yes, I call the cops, and proud of it. I have several of their numbers (depending on which jurisdiction I’m in at the time) on my cell phone. Also, one thing I’ve learned living in Memphis is never make eye contact with another driver. A friend of mine had someone follow her (after she did make eye contact) in a high speed chase to her work. She didn’t have her cell phone but managed to make it to her work and lock herself in the building —-just ahead of him. Scary. I thought I would share that tidbit I learned from her. I don’t even want to think what would have happened if he caught up to her. They never caught him.
As for truck drivers, there are some good ones out there. My FIL was a one and he was a great guy. However, one of TN’s previous senators got into a shooting match with truckers out on I40 years ago. It’s the only time I sided with the senator, cause I’ve felt like shooting a few truckers on the Interstate myself.
I’m not sure how the senator managed not to get charged with attempted homicide but they caught him for corruption eventually. He is now in the prison system somewhere. Sorry to ramble 😀 . Just one or two of the Memphis stories that I find fascinating.
T
@Das: As a fellow human being, thank you for going to such lengths to watch out for this woman (and have police get her, too). Sometimes doing the right thing comes with additional baggage attached (like if you had to go to court and testify), but doing good things in the universe comes back to you tenfold in some manner.
Just loved “Light”! Wray became a person–way to pull her out the “annoying background” slot! Greer & Young were fabulous, together and separately. Finding out why Greer was in the brig was a HUGE payoff! Perfect!
Loved: Rush’s flinch when Young patted him on the back, Eli’s eyes when he was doing the math calculations, Young’s tears (I really want to punch Emily), “lotta work.”
Have I got this right: Spencer is the one who was stealing food earlier on, and now he’s taking medication TJ doesn’t know about? Or was it not Spencer both times?
Ok, just thought of a prediction for Eli.. He meets an alien girl in a future episode, and she is great at math,, so good for Eli, MATH GIRL!! Go Eli!
hi, joe,
whenever you guys get around to making the 3rd sg1 movie (please have it be before rda needs a walker)…
IF there’s confirmation that sam and jack are in a relationship, can there be a kiss to seal the deal?
a kiss like from the episode ‘grace’.
smoldering, hot, steamy, open mouthed, passionate, face embracing… (is it getting hot in here?)
so there, this is what you can get me for christmas. well, me and about a million other shippers, but you don’t have to wrap our gifts. 😀
Just one question …
What in the name of God was Peter Kelamis drinking??? It looks like glowing radioactive orange juice!
I know, I know, it’s just some weird lighting quirk, but you have to admit it looks pretty funny.
Caption for the photo:
“Three Mile Island O.J.? Why, thanks! Don’t mind if I do…”
@Gilder – Gilder, I couldn’t agree with you more. I think your posts are great. And, I truly mean that.
See, that’s positive;0)
Peace & Love,
j
@Mr. Mallozzi,
My friend keeps bugging me for an answer. What camera do you use to film these clips with?
I don’t understand his obsessive questioning and it appears he will not be quieted. Then again, I have yet to try popping him in the mouth with my fist.
@Deni – at your post of “I knew about espectros being ghosts, but couldn’t figure out who possibly could have fit the bill!”
I know. It took a little while before I thought of something that makes sense (to me at least.) Do you remember the first season of Atlantis when we met the Wraith? Well, they were described as being able to make people see things that weren’t there. Another part of the definition that I got looking the “espectros” word up was an apparition/appearance. So, I’m guessing that this is why espectros was the operative word used.
Plus, Wraith are also dreaded so… makes sense to me…kinda sorta…?
Peace & Love,
j
Gilder: I agree with you about the medic wanting other duties. Why wouldn’t they rotate in the scunt jobs? Especially, non-trained personal vs. military or scientist.
Tam
@Deni – Oh yeah, and in some of the episodes when the Wraith are culling, you can see kind of ghostly phantom-like swirls going on around the people. But, I think this got dropped as an effect after season 1. Okay, I’m done now…really this time.
P&L,
j
@Morticae
The pics on this posting was taken with Canon PowerShot SD1100 IS 8 Mega-Pixels digital camera. It’s no longer the cutting edge in mid-level cameras. Seen a lot of 10 to 12 Mega-Pixels camera introduce recently around the same price level.
Tell you friend to look up the properties of a photo to see if they have the camera info included.
I just watched the Kino Videos. Tell Ivon they’re awesome.
@crazymom1. You wrote: Have I got this right: Spencer is the one who was stealing food earlier on, and now he’s taking medication TJ doesn’t know about? Or was it not Spencer both times?
Yes, you got it right. Both time it was Sgt. Spencer.
@Joe I wondered about a new IMDB entry on David Hewlett’s listing. Stargate:Extinction in pre-production phase? I know you said there are no news on this yet. Who is updating the IMDB database anyway?
Cheers,
Nina
@J. *blush* Thank you, sweetie!
@J and Deni. Just FYI, wordreference.com translates WRAITH as either ESPECTRO or FANTASMA.
@Elías. ¿Ya estrenó SGU en Argentina, o la vió por la red?
(Has SGU premiered in Arg., or did you see it on the Internet?)
Hmmm…so many good things have come from being an SG fan…friendships, of course, but also education. One of the Barcelona fans introduced me to wordreference.com…great online dictionary and translation tool.
@Nina
I believe IMDb.com, like Wikipedia, accepts user submissions.
@Joe – well, clearly you don’t see the Chloe and Scott thing – or these two characters as I (and at least some other viewers) do, or they wouldn’t be written that way. However, I *do* understand what you’re trying to show. I just don’t see it that way, though.
My problem with a sexual involvement with them at this point is that it’s not a “relationship.” To me, a relationship is something that takes more than a couple days to develop, even when you’re under, shall we say, stress. I do get it – and can accept – that for people in a life or death scenario, sex can be and often is a way of desperately clinging to life, expressing the need to stay alive, and so forth. When one is facing death, everything gets very intense.
However, my problems with these two, and the reason I just don’t believe it with them, is that Scott was screwing another woman apparently less than a week before, he’s known Chloe a bare handful of days, and so far, she is shown to have very few redeeming characteristics. We’re supposed to see her as – something, I suppose – that I haven’t seen. So far, I’ve seen an idiot whining that she can’t be alone in the dark, taking a shower before the commanding officer said it was ok to do so when water is obviously a scarce commodity, and doing utterly nothing worth anything. Now, you can certainly counter that she’s lost her dad so she’s grieving – ok, true, but everyone on that ship is grieving. When I’ve lost someone I love, my first response has not been to jump into the sack with someone I barely knew.
Further, with Scott, and this point I am sorry to belabor, but it is relevant here: I have a fundamental disrespect for people, no matter their age, who engage in what I think of as “stupid sex,” having had events in their lives that should have taught them how stupid it is. He as a teenager got a girl pregnant, and she had an abortion. Sure, people make mistakes. But this is a BIG mistake. People do make BIG mistakes, and I can certainly forgive them for such things. However, I personally would prefer them to *learn* from said mistakes, and avoid engaging in similar behavior again. I have trouble taking seriously people who don’t, especially if they’re people in positions requiring responsibility. It is certainly true that sometimes people have sex when they’ve known each other a day or two. Personally, I find that really dumb, but people do it. But he was having a sexual “relationship” no matter how casual with James only a few days before. That is creepy to me.
With Chloe, ok, I admit that my language regarding her reasons for having sex with Scott was too strong. However, what I saw with her was that it was obvious that Scott was going to be on the shuttle (Scott and TJ would have been my choices, given piloting and medical skills), and she was sleeping with him to get him to try to make sure she was on that shuttle. Yes, I know what she said after the sex, but I didn’t buy it.
I didn’t buy it because she’s not a believable character to me, and I do see her as manipulative. It’s fairly clear that I’m not alone in this. I’m not exactly part of the “kill Chloe” movement, but what I’d like to see from her is a real effort to make herself useful in some way. And I do think she’s manipulating Eli – her “affection” shown to him is more than of the just friends variety in terms of body language. She hangs on him, she holds his hand in a somewhat intimate way, and so forth.
Anyway, so that’s how I see it and why. I’m not trying to convince you that I’m right (‘cause you won’t agree with me anyway), but trying to explain why I see it that way.
Finally, I do appreciate it that the sex scene wasn’t creepy this time as it was with James, and I get it that the attempt was made to show that this was “relationship” sex rather than casual sex, and it was certainly pretty with the sun in the background and all, but see above. No matter how pretty, I don’t buy it. The characters as shown are not that convincing to me, even with pretty romantic backgrounds.
Mary
jlgrand
@ Rose
“I have yet to see a single person request that female characters “whine about their equal rights” so I would have to agree that it is “the predominant feeling of your audience male or female.”
@jlgrand: “That sentence makes no sense, even when you are trying to relate it to my words.”
I’m not offended by your words. I could only work with what I was given and your original comment was pretty incoherent.
@jlgrand: “My point was/is if Mr. M is to use all the posts as a symbol of women, they would be portrayed this way on the screen in a large group huddling in a corner, in a loud voice repeating “I don’t care if I’m 2 seconds from dying, I want to die ahead of you, man!” I have read so many negative, long-winded speeches on how SGU needs stronger women and these speeches are only from a FEW women. I have read the other posts on Gateworld (oh how short and not whiny).”
The funniest thing about that paragraph is that YOUR RANT is as LONG and WHINY as you are criticizing others for writing. We have been told this is a “character-driven” show. I have commented on “character”. Should I be bitching – as you are – because people dare to discuss technology and/or timelines? People can discuss what they want. It’s Joe’s blog, not mine – if he doesn’t like it, he can edit. It’s to his credit he doesn’t.
@jlgrand: “There are at least 2 military women. Being in the military takes strength. In ‘Air 1′ one of the women through the gate had white hair, so hopefully we will see her in the future. There is Camile Wray who confronts Young head-on, and many others that we have not seen yet. Chloe was an assistant to a Senator. There was a woman scientist that walked through the gate on the sand planet.”
Well, what I have said is that, up to the 1/4 of the season, women have not yet been seen as strong characters. Chloe was a Senators assistant because the Senator was her father. Wray folded like a puff of smoke when she got the possibility of a maybe pushback to her comments to Young. The rest have DONE nothing yet by your own statement. Your comments don’t refute anything I have said.
@Rose (formerly OhioAnne) “Now, some of the audience – male and female – have noticed that, up to this point, the women on Stargate Universe have been portrayed in a way that is more passive than strong in their point of view and stated that opinion. Is that what you are referring to as “whining”?
@jlgrand: “Yes that is it! *puts finger on nose as in charades* I understand it is a viewpoint, and you are welcome to it, as I have a right to mine. Or don’t I? According to you, I don’t since you feel the need to jump on my comment. Try letting one go for once that doesn’t agree with yours. Can you?”
Except, of course, I NEVER said that you don’t have a right to say what you think. Small incovenient fact there.
YOU jumped first on my comments. I responded.
You are the one complaining about the fact that I responded to your statement – not I.
@Rose (formerly OhioAnne)“Like you, I am a woman, but unlike you, I don’t find it “embarrassing” to state a viewpoint that differs from that of other people.”
@jlgrand: “I don’t find it embarrassing to state an alternate viewpoint. That is what I am doing. And here you mock me (incorrectly, I might add.) It is the sheer repetitiveness of your rants … omg… and I feel bad for women if this is how we are represented by a one-note women jury. SGU is a SHOW and ENTERTAINMENT. But I knew when posting my comment that I would only get negative stuff back from you and maybe Mary or Anne Teldy and maybe J. Because that is your ‘thing.’ Do you comment on any of my other opinions? No.”
So, in other words, you were trolling for someone to take your “bait”.
🙂 That’s funny!
@jlgrand: “Yes, I worked for 30 years as a professional watching all the female contingent go by the wayside because of marriage and babies. Wah. I did not and have no right to blame them; that was their choice. It left me the only one left to deal with the glass ceiling. Another Wah. I just don’t think it serves your (OUR if I may *snickers, as if*) purpose by writing about it all the time. It ends up desensitizing people to it, and antagonizing along the way. I am not the ‘enemy,’ I just think one can ‘catch more flies with honey.’ Women have come a very long way and there is still a long way to go. Is SGU completely misrepresenting woment? No. And I do think Chloe can be killed off at any minute.”
And you call your response here “honey”?
🙂 Again, that’s funny!
@jlgrand: “BTW My name is jlgrand, not jigrand. How can I find your rants about me if you misspell it? Thanks! Sorry about the LONG comment. I believe commenting here is a privilege. We can ‘take it outside’ if you want and continue the fisticuffs in private if you want my email, cuz that is where this stuff should go.”
Ummmmmmm…… my screenname is “Rose(formerly OhioAnne)” – not “Rose”. There happen to be two posters with the name “Rose” so I went back to using my previous screen name as well to differentiate between us.
If you have a problem with me, then please use the CORRECT username. Your misuse of the my name unfairly targets the poster who just goes by “Rose”.
You owe her an apology. 🙂
@Gilder
Thanks for the answer. And I thought IMDB was somewhat more official. Oh well.